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Wed Jan-20-10 02:13 AM
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I predict that a Real Kennedy will run for Teds Seat in 2012. |
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A year of Scott Brown as the Senator will snap the Massachusetts Democrats back into reality. It appears that such frustration will bring out say Bobby Kennedy or Joe Kennedy to rescue the legacy.
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:16 AM
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1. Oh yes, let's promote legacy, an inherited office. |
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How about grooming an actual democrat that will fight for democratic ideals.
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:42 AM
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There are several names we need to retire from politics forever.
Your electability shouldn't hinge on your name.
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:38 AM
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:54 AM
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18. Yeah, unlike those DINO Kennedys. |
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:sarcasm:
My guess is that ten times out of ten, compare a Kennedy to any of the corporate "Democrats" we have in Congress and there won't be any debate as to who comes out looking like the "real democrat."
Sure, Teddy's name helped him get started in politics. But people didn't keep supporting for him for 47 years just because he was part of a political dynasty. He was the real deal.
We can all be rightfully skeptical of dynastic politics while also acknowledging that dynasties and great leaders aren't always mutually exclusive.
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Wed Jan-20-10 04:01 AM
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19. Name one Kennedy in office in Mass who can step up an represent the people. |
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Right now.
Name a Kennedy who has earned political chops as an advocate for labor, women, minorities, poor, working class, in Massachusetts who deserves to represent all of them let alone any of them.
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Wed Jan-20-10 04:21 AM
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21. We don't know who can and cannot lead until they're given the chance. |
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You missed my point. My point was not to dismiss the future of Kennedys in politics out of hand, just because they're a dynasty. Because based on their track record, they've been some of the best we've ever produced.
I have a theory that the BFEE has soured some Democrats on the Kennedys, even if it's just subconsciously. I feel like people equate the Kennedys with the same type of sickening cronyism and nepotism we get from the Bushes, all the while neglecting the fact that despite their wealth and privilege, the Kennedys have always fought for the people. Like I said, we can always maintain a healthy skepticism of dynasties (much in the same way we can and should always question leaders, no matter who they are), but still acknowledge that occasionally a dynasty will produce a good egg like Teddy and his brothers.
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Wed Jan-20-10 04:35 AM
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22. And my point is they are not the best if they are not already involved. |
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Find someone else. Find someone who has already put in the blood, sweat, and tears to be an advocate.
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Wed Jan-20-10 04:02 AM
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20. I believe that Teddy, Jr. |
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has moved back to Massachusetts.
He has young kids, but when they are older, I look for him to run. I don't blame him for not wanting to interrupt his family life to take up the mantle.
I don't know about Bobby's kids. How many of them live in Massachusetts, do you know?
You're right. Kennedys know what it means to serve the people instead of corporations.
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:17 AM
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2. Won't matter... by then we'll be back in the minority |
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:44 AM
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:54 AM
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5. And besides the Mayan Calender will have come back to earth to kill us all before the new Senators.. |
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:55 AM
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:36 AM
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... back to earth? Where is it then??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Wed Jan-20-10 02:59 AM
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7. Psst: A Senator's term is 6 years. Did you not know that? |
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But yeah it's totally right to start working for the 2016 election.
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:02 AM
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8. this special election was to finish the remainder of Ted's term |
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:09 AM
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9. But Brown didn't win a full term--only the remainder of Kennedy's term |
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that expires in 2012.
Not wise to be snarky and wrong.
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:44 AM
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23. 2012...thats what I thought!!!! |
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Thanks for not making me look it up!! :)
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Wed Jan-20-10 10:52 AM
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Wed Jan-20-10 10:59 AM
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30. January 2, 2013, technically. |
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Those running for Senate in November 2012 will be sworn in on January 3, 2013.
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:39 AM
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:D
Failed across multiple threads I see.
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:40 AM
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14. It's so rarely accomplished :) |
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:42 AM
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16. "special election". but i see others have schooled you already. |
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:41 AM
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15. I predict they won't. |
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Wed Jan-20-10 03:42 AM
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17. He will be betten like a rented mule by Mike Capauno |
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:33 AM
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24. A real Kennedy ran this time |
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Joe changed his name. Legally. Paid the fee and everything. He's a real Kennedy.
He may not get invited to any of the reunions, but hey, reunions are over-rated.
:hi:
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:48 AM
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25. He can't be a real Kennedy until he gets the real Kennedy teeth |
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Wed Jan-20-10 10:49 AM
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26. Dynasty politics? Let hope we are beyond that in the US |
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Wed Jan-20-10 10:54 AM
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28. We really need the Kennedy's |
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Wed Jan-20-10 11:00 AM
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31. Or how about we start a new family dynasty? |
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Hasn't the Kennedy clan been around long enough?
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Wed Jan-20-10 10:55 AM
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29. Nope.. Gotta strike when the iron is hot.. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 10:57 AM by SoCalDem
There is precedent for a widow to "step in", and even for a son to run for "Dad's seat", but after losing the seat to a republican NOW, can you imagine the pressure 2 years from now? Republicans will be grooming CapeCodKen and they will spend whatever it takes to secure a 6 yr gig for him.. A Kennedy young'un who came close, but still lost, would be worse than bad..... and a lot of those young kennedys have some skeletons in their closets.. They may just want to do their charitable work, and live their lives. The ONE Kennedy who could have carried on, died in that plane crash with his wife & sister-in-law.. he had the charisma to win, if he had chosen to run.
The Kennedy era is over.. They had a half-century run. It's time for a new person to step up.
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