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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:15 AM
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Everyone is upset about Brown NOW. What about Dorgan and the writing off of his seat by Dems?
That was the final nail in the coffin for me.

The DLC is firmly in control, and the media saying it's because Obama's health care plan was "too far left". This is what they want people to believe the left IS = overzealous version of DLC policies. They want to kill progressive populism in this country.

Next step, they want to take down Feingold: Tweety announcing his seat may be in danger.

Fortunately the other 4 seats in danger are all DLC assholes

(Bayh-IN, Lincoln-AR, Reid who needed to be forced out of the leadership BY the Democrats ages ago, and Specter.)

Does this mean the American people aren't buying it and the media is whistling past the graveyard?

Do progressives want to allow the right wingers and birthers to claim the mantle of populism and cede this populist anger to the right, the way some urban progressives have ceded religion to the right, and ignored religious progressives whose first concern was social justice?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:17 AM
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1. Never mind "Liberals" "Progressives" and "the Left"
How about just making the country work better for more people?

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:18 AM
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2. You and I may not like it, but the Mass election demonstrates that the country is more to the right
than I ever dreamed

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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:25 AM
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4. Only if you believe populism is a right wing impulse.
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 07:27 AM by Leopolds Ghost
Some people feel that way. They provide no alternaive to the birthers or Lou Dobbs for working class filled with anger about direction of country. No wonder Dems have ceded ND. They don't want to be the party of the working class anymore, it seems.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:26 AM
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5. Populism cuts both sides of the sword /nt
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:29 AM
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6. Yes. and we need to start cutting our side.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:23 AM
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3. No one will try and take down Feingold. His seat is not in danger.
Tweety is full of shit. how can anyone here not know that by now.

And much as I dislike Bayh and Lincoln, I do not relish the thought of they're being replaced by people even more to the right.

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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:30 AM
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7. Yeah but the fact that the Dems most in danger are Blue Dogs should say something
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 08:31 AM by Leopolds Ghost
The people who say they have to adopt those beliefs because their seats are in danger may be confusing cause and effect.

And Reid's potential lame duck status provides an EXCELLENT motivation for visible change at the top -- unfortunately he's apparently a nice guy and a friend of the Prez and other powerful Dems so that won't happen.

Can they convince Reid to retire now for the good of the country?

But back to Dorgan, that's far more important to me than Coakley, who was nerely a POTENTIAL, milquetoast, Senator.

Why weren't folks up in arms about Dorgan being forced to retire?
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