Which stage of grief are you in?

[CTyankee]

I'm in red hot, volcanic anger myself...

[tekisui]

1. I'm in the 'Aw, fuck it.' stage.

Spineless Dems lose again.

[peace frog]

3. "Never f*cking mind" is my stance

We did the best we could but we progressives don't matter. There si no place at the table for us. So never f*cking mind.

[bdamomma]

4. I am in the same category,

[WildEyedLiberal]

63. Yeah, I was about to post, "where's apathy?"

'Aw, fuck it' sums it up better, though.

[rox63]

2. Anger, definitely

:nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr:

[elocs]

5. I'm here:

[City Lights]

6. Anger.

:mad:

[lonestarnot]

7. Ugh. I would not call it grief.

[quinnox]

8. I'm thinking about just saying fuck it to politics

I could just go back to when I was young and didn't pay attention to politics except that I was a Democrat so when I heard the Democrat won I would be happy but didn't really pay attention beyond that.

This is heartbreaking to see we win everything in 2008 and then we don't get shit out of it.

[depakid]

9. No grief at all-

Curious as to whether the administration and the current crop of Democratic leaders in congress will learn or not.

[brendan120678]

10. Can't say that I'm in any of those stages...

more like an, "Oh well - shit happens" stage.
I guess that's "acceptance," but I bypassed all the others that come before it.

I went from Surprise --> Acceptance in a matter of seconds, really.

[CTyankee]

16. God, I wish I were there with you. This is gonna take some time for me. nt

[HipChick]

11. I'm still fired up and ready to go..

I'm not about to lay down,rollover and die.

[peace frog]

13. Who's lying down, rolling over and dying

I'm alive, on my feet and kicking. "Never f*cking mind" doesn't mean any of those things.

[LeftinOH]

36. +1. While I'm still above ground, I'm not giving up.

[Bettie]

12. I'm angry

And it is the media and the Democratic leadership that I am angry at.

"This was a referendum on the Obama agenda"....bullshit. This was a senate race where Republicans managed to get high enough turnout of their people to manage a win.

It was not a referendum on health care and it does not mean doom for Obama and the Dems.

Sadly, they are seemingly trying to doom themselves by refusing to lead and allowing the minority party to set the agenda.

What makes me really angry is that when the Repugs were in the majority, they rammed anything they wanted down the throats of the minority and the Dems think that asking nicely is the way to get things done. Someone needs to grow a spine and start getting the people's business done or we will have lost our opportunity.

(edited for clarity because I forgot a word the first time)

[HipChick]

14. This...+100...Dems need to grow some balls..

[varelse]

15. Other

"We're not dead yet". Oh, I guess that is denial?

[donco6]

17. I'm in the "WTF did you THINK would happen?" stage.

Duh.

[uponit7771]

43. She went on vacation with no daily tracking from DNC or her campaign manager...

...I agree, wtf did people THINK was going to happen with Coakley!!

[Lyric]

18. I'm in the "Not the least bit surprised" stage.

But then again, I'm one of those "leftbaggers" who isn't REALLY "part of the base", so who cares what I think?

:hi:

[JVS]

24. Me too. Or perhaps it's the "what the fuck did you think was going to happen" stage

Or perhaps even the "I did my grieving back when it became clear that we weren't doing shit with 60 senators" stage

[ddeclue]

19. In the not in grief stage.. it was obvious this was going to happen.

[lunatica]

20. I'm in the acceptance stage

To paraphrase that prayer that says "grant me the strength to change the things I can change and the wisdom to know the things I can't change"

And to repeat a phrase I use often, especially when I'm disappointed, "The Truth is always a good thing to know, no matter how uncomfortable or painful it is"

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

21. I'm in a stage of bewilderment

Dems have a majority. Not enough to stop a filibuster, but why are we so afraid of a Republican filibuster?

Lock 'em in a room with a little stove. If the smoke from the stove is black, they're filibustering. When the smoke from the stove is white, we have a health care bill.

:wtf:

[DainBramaged]

22. Disgusted, the Pukes outmaneuvered us yet again

Put a guy in who didn't claim to be anything and convinced independents he was a Moderate independent, not a fucking Pretty Boy Puke.

[Deep13]

23. Usually it would be blind rage, by I just don't have the energy anymore. nt

[nevergiveup]

25. This was local politics mixed with an angry electorate.

Brown did a great job of taking advantage. Time to move on and stop the blame game as it accomplishes nothing.

[Xenotime]

26. I have already pissed off my co-workers with my rage this morngin...

I hate it when you can't fucking see straight

[raccoon]

27. Elucidate, my dead Yankee. What are you referring to? nt

[CTyankee]

46. Oh, I thought you knew! Well, there was this little election in Massachussetts.

Funny, you didn't hear about it. But anyway it's a long story. Read a few more of the oh, hundred or so posts every hour of the last 48 hours and you'll get filled in...

[Quantess]

28. How interesting nobody said "bargaining"

It's what our Dems do best.

[ElmoBlatz]

29. Stage of grief?

Why would I be in a stage of grief? Did something happen that I should grieve over? Why are you asking me?

(denial)

[Odin2005]

30. Anger, definitely Anger.

I was Denial for a long time...

[AngryAmish]

31. You know this stages of grief theory is complete bullshit?

Ascientific nonsense.

[pipi_k]

33. Maybe to you, but not to someone who's gone through it

many times.

[AngryAmish]

37. It is comforting to have any framework, even if wrong

And if it gives you comfort, then it is fine. However the stages of grief theory was just made up. Most people do not grieve like that.

[pipi_k]

38. If you look at it as a rigid progression from one step to another, then

you're probably right.


But people can skip from step 1 to step 4, then go right back to step 2. Or any other combination. Many times.


As you said, it's a framework...a general guide...it's not absolutely static, nor should it be. But that doesn't mean it's witch doctor bullshit.

[AngryAmish]

45. It just doesn't jibe with many people's (or most people's) experience

Has this hypothesis been tested? Yes. Was the hypothesis - that there are 5 stages of grief been disproven? Yes.

This was made up by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross. She worked with cancer patients. She said in her experience these are the stages people go through when they have can (and remember- cancer was almost always fatal back then).

Well, a lot has changed in 40 years. Freudianism has been repudiated as the ascientific mush that it was. We can test psychological theories. THis one has been tested and found wanting.

Why do I care so much? I have unfortunately experienced a fair amount of grief-inducing events in my life - like almost everyone. People demanded I talk about the losses, see counselors, etc. When all I wanted was to be left alone. And like most people I bounced back. Unfortunately people in the grief industry tend to be the kind of persons who like talking about these things. Most people don't. And those of us who don't should not be forced to do things or feel bad when refuse to grieve under preconceived notions of "correct stages of grief."

[CTyankee]

47. Ah, there's your anger stage surfacing, right after your denial! nt

[AngryAmish]

49. HAHAHA!

[CTyankee]

51. You may be right...but I was trying to ascertain folks' mood today and thought

this was a handy way that most people understand.

So I'm not tied to this theory at all.

[NashVegas]

56. Oh But We Loved It

During primary season, when we were on top, didn't we?

[pipi_k]

32. Other: Total disgust and overwhelming shame

for what the voters of my state just did.


And here's the thing...was talking with someone the other day who said that he had watched the debates and thought that out of all of the candidates, Martha Coakley sounded like she really knew what she was talking about.

The person who said this...

you got it...a registered Republican.


How could this have happened? I feel sick.

[CTyankee]

48. Please don't feel ashamed. You did what you could.

I know how you feel because I worked on Ned Lamont's campaign and I felt ashamed of CT when Joe won back in 06. We in CT still feel the backlash, some of which comes from DUers and it makes me mad. We did what we could, too.

I don't blame you, pipi. I do think the party, not only your state's but also the national Dem party, was not paying attention and not listening to what was going on among the electorate. It's their job and they didn't do it.

[Forkboy]

50. I don't feel any shame over our great state.

We had a run with two of the best, most liberal senators this country has ever seen, two people who have done (and in Kerry's case, still do) so much good for this country, often in ways that never get noticed by the scandal driven media. Mass is a great state, and Brown getting elected doesn't, and won't, change that.

[bigwillq]

34. Accept it and move on

DEMS f'ed up. Coakley was a terrible candidate, her campaign wasn't very good from everything I read. Our elected DEM officials continue to squabble with each other and have squandered their big majorities on major issues. DEMs in Congress need to get their act together and start representing the people that voted them into office instead of corporate interests. This is a very serious issue. DEMS have a lot of work to do. But it starts with the people who are already elected. They're the ones that need to shape up, as well as the party heads.

[Jamastiene]

66. Same for me.

[MissDeeds]

35. Angry

Disillusioned, dismayed, disgusted, but mainly angry.

:grr:

[NuttyFluffers]

39. part of the "told you so" Cassandra contingent; we grieve prematurely for folly.

already over it before people even voted, sad to say. :( but we still empathize with our community's pain. :cry:

[CTyankee]

52. I thought I was over it on Monday when the chill set in but I was surprised

and angry when it actually happened...

[uponit7771]

40. Motivated

[rucky]

41. Not sure if it's denial or acceptance. n/t

[guitar man]

42. I don't have time for grief

Too busy trying to survive. Without some kind of radical change over the next 12 months, this is going to be my family's last year with health coverage. I have to try and formulate some kind of contingent plan to take care of the family medical needs and have no idea where to start. God knows there is no help forthcoming from our elected officials. Bunch of scheming bastards couldn't agree on the color of shite!

:grr:

[high density]

44. don't care, which I guess is acceptance

Everything was already a virtual gridlock with 60 votes, 59 really isn't changing much.

[NoFace]

53. Check it out..City Data's Backwoods Conservatives is a'laughing at y'all.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/871970-democratic-underground-what-stage-grief-you.html

Yuk Yuk Yuk.

Anyways...

[krabigirl]

55. Yikes...city data's forum is full of scary, bigoted people.

[UTUSN]

54. K&R to undo (for now) the usual a-hole UnReKKK (I picked "Anger")n/t

[KG]

57. i'm still at the pearl-clutching stage. later i'm going to elevate to garment-rending

[CTyankee]

58. I couldn't sleep last night after hearing about the returns so I browsed thru

a travel brochure I had just gotten in the mail. I decided that I would escape to London for a couple of weeks (actually London, Edinburgh and Dublin). I just wanted to get out of the country so bad.

I calmed down considerably when I saw the price tag...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

59. Is cynical indifference to politics-as-usual a stage?

[CTyankee]

60. I think that comes after acceptance. I don't blame you.

I just thought it would take longer for Obama to acquiesce to the politics as usual crowd...I still hope for his redemption and he may just have had it up to his nose and he'll be more liberal...

I'll wait and see...

[Hekate]

61. I skipped most of the anger and went straight to depression. Mr. H & I look at each other and say...

"We are so fucked." :-(

Hekate

[Blue_In_AK]

62. I'm mostly in the acceptance phase

because I never expected much. Expect the worst and you won't be disappointed.

[BuelahWitch]

64. I have been in depression since late 2004

[omega minimo]

65. Buddhism