last1standing
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:17 AM
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So many threads attacking the voters of MA. |
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Has anyone thought to ask why the voters in this cobalt blue state were so angry with Democrats? I mean, we can sit around calling the voters names or we can ask ourselves why they felt the need to vote for a candidate who is obviously not in their best interests. Was it generalized frustration with the state of the country, was it the way health care is being handled, was it a condemnation of the first year of the Obama administration or of congress, or did people just not like Coakley?
Maybe its time to be honest about where we are exactly a year after inaugurating the era of Hope and Change.
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:22 AM
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1. I was surprised to find out AFTER the fact that Coakley made an appearance here in Brockton |
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Apparently, she showed-up unannounced at a diner and met with whatever ten or so people just happened to be there at the time.
I don't think she was trying very hard to win.
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:25 AM
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3. I don't think the PTBs thought she could lose. |
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That sense of entitlement could be felt here in Michigan, I can only imagine how it must have galled the voters in Massachusetts.
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:36 AM
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7. Believe me, we're pretty galled. n/t |
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:23 AM
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2. DU still doesn't realize that they are a vast minority opinion - the election confirms that |
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:30 AM
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5. True - I'm still mad as hell about the dems cowardly acquiescence during the |
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...Bush years and still hoping for change. Yes, I know it takes time. Yes, I know it will have to come from the bottom up. BUT we do need leadership in ACTION not just WORDS. Obama talks well, but his actions? Maybe his hands are tied by the dems who only think of re-election, but how about using some 'signing statements' to get the point across that he is going to DO something? Yes, I know he has accomplished some good things, but some bold in-your-face GOP type moves would go a long way towards placating a very angry/demoralized dem base.
I hear alot of anger about the arrogance of Wall Street knowning that they can continue to be creative with 'our' money, knowing that they will get bailed out yet again.
Plus, yet again, its the economy stupid!
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:39 AM
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8. I've heard that comment posted since at least 2002 and I still don't think its true. |
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DU is a microcosm of opinions, not a minority one. We all voice the same desire to see the country do better in vastly different ways, that's all.
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:30 AM
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6. You certainly know how to make my point. |
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Wed Jan-20-10 08:48 AM
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9. "All politics is local" - Tip O'Neill |
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They were, in part, fed up with the arrogance displayed right at home on Beacon Hill. State government here has been disgraceful in so many ways.
And it spilled over into this election.
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:20 AM
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10. If anyone knew about MA politics, O'Neill did. |
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And I think you're on to something. I'm not hearing that many Massachusetts voters are too happy with the politicians who represent them at the moment (very common in this national economy). However, I think it does go further based on the exit polling we've seen. A majority do not want this HCR bill passed in its current form, they're anxious about the lack of apparent desire to regulate the banks so that they don't cause another crash, they feel the government (from the top down) hasn't listened to them or supported them in their hour of need. Since the average MA voter can look at the list of politicians and see "D" after nearly every name, its no wonder they would try "something new".
This concerns me because unless the Democrats give the voters that "something new" we are going to see a repeat of 1994 in about 10 months. I don't like fundie republicans any more than self-interested, centrist Democrats, but given the choice, I think most will go for the fundie come November (I'll just go Green, probably).
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:23 AM
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The arrogance on Boston's Beacon Hill is just the tip of the iceberg.
:thumbsup:
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:33 AM
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12. I don't care for them they let the country down |
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no matter how complacent a candidate is, they should not sit on their butt and let a republican, especially one as much of an a**hole as brown get elected. It shows they have no love for their country. If they had showed up and voted and brown won, that's one thing, but to sit the election out is not being a real American and Democrat. And I don't care what people say they are stupid as hell.
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:48 AM
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17. The people of MA may not be Democrats, but they are Americans, whether you like it or not. |
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And its comments like yours, exuding a sense of entitlement and arrogance, that pushed them into voting republican or not voting at all.
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:36 AM
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13. Who should we blame for voting for him? |
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:46 AM
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15. You can blame anyone you like, but who does that help? |
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I think that's the real problem of the Democratic party that we're seeing today. Instead of asking why the voters turned against them, they're just trying to find ways of casting the blame at someone else.
How is that going to lead to Democratic victories in November?
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Wed Jan-20-10 11:51 PM
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23. Not the Mass residents who voted for Coakley. |
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Only lazy people aren't capable of making the distinction.
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:44 AM
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14. Too many people here don't want to have that conversation. |
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Good luck with that.
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-Laelth
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:49 AM
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18. Socrates got hemlock, I'll probably get a pizza. |
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But I'll post what I think are solid ideas until that day.
Thanks. :hi:
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:46 AM
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16. That's ok, people attack folks in the south all the time, so get used to it |
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Wed Jan-20-10 09:50 AM
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19. I'm in Michigan, but I understand where you're coming from. |
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Wed Jan-20-10 10:20 AM
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20. Exactly. Attacking the Voters of MA Is Blaming the Victim. |
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They were promised change, and they got business as usual. That's not a syndrome that's unique to Massachusetts. This is going to be repeated on a HUGE scale in November. Independents and non-brainwashed Democrats are not going to race to the polls to vote for the same pathetic DINOS that did nothing to start moving this country to the left. They'll stay home, and the resultant Republican victories won't be THEIR fault; they'll be the fault of a party that cares much, much more about keeping their pockets full than they do about making life better for the American people.
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Wed Jan-20-10 11:41 PM
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21. I'm predicting record losses for Democrats in November. |
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I don't know anyone who can look me in the eye and say they're satisfied with Democrats right now. They are quickly proving that they do not deserve to lead this nation.
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Wed Jan-20-10 11:47 PM
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22. Maybe MA voters thought Coakley didn't want the job. |
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One could have gotten that impression. It's hard for someone who really wants to job to get it. If effort appears lukewarm, support at the polls will match.
Coakley's campaign was not ...
stellar. (Or so I have read.)
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