Why Brown won: Simple

[BeFree]

Brown won because the right and the teabaggers were unified. Joining together, putting aside their differences, they mustered just enough votes to win.

The Democrats all went their separate ways, arguing amongst themselves about every little thing, losing sight of the fact that the opposition are republicans.

We saw a division of the party right here on DU, and it will, if it continues, allow many more pukes to get elected this year.

[duphase]

1. Rich people kiss each other. Poor people, p-- on each other. nt

[HughBeaumont]

8. The Golden Shower of Republican Illusory Promise.

"We'll Lower your Taxes, Fix the Economy and Make Sure You get More and More MUNNEEEEE!!!"*

*That is, if the spirit moves us and our cronies get theirs first .. .. ..

[Cary]

10. Speak for yourself

I'm not poor. I'm just smart enough to know that in the long run greed isn't good.

[Mass]

40. Higher income towns voted Coakley. Middle income towns voted Brown

Poor rural cities voted Coakley, but very low turn out.

Take care of your own or you will lose.

[GodlessBiker]

2. This is common. The party in power fragments and the minority is unified. Nothing new.

[Sara Bradi]

7. if the party in power...

is R, it fragments over time (it took almost 6 years and several colossal blunders under Bush).

is D, it disintegrates overnight. Partly because of the disciplined R attack machine and partly due to the lack of discipline in the democratic party.

Ohio is likely to go all R this year after just 4 years, the Rs controlled Ohio for 16 years before ceding the 3 top posts to democrats.

[cali]

3. nope not simple

Coakley pissed away a 30 point lead. Corruption among MA dem politicians played a role. he ran a near perfect campaign. The political environment is rough for dems. The centrist direction of Washington turned off some voters. The list goes on.

[Statistical]

4. Hardly.

Teabaggers are a tiny tiny tiny (rounding error) minority.

Brown won because polls shows indies going to him 2:1.

[rem3006]

12. The Indies ARE

the tea baggers. Voters voted against Repubs in'06 and '08, not FOR Dems. The same was true in NJ, VA in '09 and now MA yesterday. The middle voted AGAINST Dems but not FOR Repubs. The public is very angry. Repubs didn't get a mandate. I also don't think that health care was the real underlying issue but rather just the one that could be verbalized. I think it's the massive spending and debt accumulation that has the people scared.

[Statistical]

34. So you claim.

Provide your evidence that bagger make up 44% (FOURTY FOUR FRIGGIN PERCENT) of the population in MA.

Baggers number in the thousands maybe ten thousands. Brown won by 120,000.

[arcadian]

5. Nope, they won because Brown has good hair and what's her name? was absent.

[shawcomm]

29. Yep. "What's her name"

perfect description of her "campaign"

[gmoney]

39. ...

nevermind

[a kennedy]

6. you forgot the independents all went for him too.....

[Cary]

9. When you're in power and you sow discontent and discord,

what happens?

[RaleighNCDUer]

20. Absolutely - therefore, the so-called 'centrists' and Blue Dogs and DLCers

should stop crapping on the Democratic base and stand behind the kind of legislation the people WANT.

They need to stop sowing discontent and discord.

[Cary]

28. This is nothing but pure denial

You're making a huge mistake.

I hope you like more war and less taxes for the rich. That's the path you're taking us down.

[RaleighNCDUer]

30. Let's see - Democrats enabling the Republican agenda is good,

while Democrats calling upon Democrats to hew to Democratic ideals is taking us toward "more war and less taxes for the rich".

How the fuck does that work?

[derby378]

11. Tea Tea Tea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qAEdi68caM

[Tim01]

13. A LOT of people showed up for this election

And they voted for Brown. There were a hell of lot more people voting for Brown than just tea baggers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. They Won Because The Economy Sucks

They won because the economy sucks, people are scared, they blame the incumbebt party, rightly or wrongly as that may be.

[TxRider]

16. Not because it suck really

But because they see the banks who made the crisis bailed out with tax money, and walk away smiling.

And while Washington argues endlessly and spends all it's time fighting about details a HCR bill nobody likes, people are losing their jobs, eating through their savings, losing their homes and cars and Congress fiddles while Rome burns.

Clue: Most Americans have health care and are happy with it, and want Washington to focus on jobs, foreclosures and our deficit more than HCR.

Independents are going to be voting jobs, balanced budget, and help for main street in crisis. Anything outside that will lose votes.

What they are seeing is record unemployment, record deficits, and tons but help for Wall street from the taxpayer pocket.

Independents gave us a majority, and aren't liking what they are seeing, and seem to be set to take it away.

[SoCalDem]

15. Cape Cod Ken v Schoolmarm

young vibrant guy to replace a very sick old man who died in office after 47 years in office..


change
(not all change is good)

[bigwillq]

17. DU is not reality.

Stop blaming a message board. So I guess Obama only won in 2008 and we took back Congress in 2006 because people said nice things on a message board. NOPE. Hard work on the ground is what made DEM victorious in both those years. It can happen again if people are willing to work and fight for it.

On edit: I do agree with the firs half of your post. But I think that starts with the DEM leadership and the people that are already elected. They haven't done a very good job since Jan. 2009 of uniting the party. They need to do better.

[theophilus]

18. I think that you are right to a great degree. DU exemplifies the idea that Dems are

a herd of cats. We are noble individuals that can't stick together as a group very long. We need to change or "die" politically.

[slackmaster]

19. That's half of the problem

The other half is that Congress cobbled together a big fat mess of a health care bill, with enough concessions and exceptions and perks for special interests in it to piss off a majority of the public.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

21. The Senators

we have a lousy bunch - something has to happen so these pull together. The right wing Dems in the Senate are going to lose their seats to the GOP anyway so they should stick with the others and Obama and get good healthcare system. It's a warning to the House and to the DNC too.

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[KittyWampus]

24. 6 posts to your name and you say "Obamacare"?

[PA Democrat]

25. Here's a clue for you,

if you want to last more than a half hour here, lose the tea bagger terminology.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

23. Tea Parties set aside difference?

They look pretty single-minded to me.

Apart from that: yeah.

[vincna]

26. Brown won because the Independents voted for him

Neither the Right Wing nor the Left Wing have the political muscle to win without the Independents. We need to understand why Brown captured the Independent vote and perhaps make some adjustments. Just assuming they're idiots or that they were lied to is a guaranteed loser.

[BeFree]

33. Some yes

But the polls show 22% of dems voting for Brown.

22% of dems. That was the difference.

[Bitwit1234]

27. You are correct ..when they want to elect someone

republicans stick together and VOTE. The democrats don't they have this thing about their messages and their feelings. Look at how the republicans are sticking together in congress, voting AGAINST each and every one of Obama's bills and look how the Democrats as stated, are branching off into little groups, saying I know better than you, I am going to do this, the heck with the will of the people. MAX BAUCUS AND BEN NELSON.

[shadowknows69]

31. The opposition is the status quo. Until that changes it barely matters who is seated.

[Ganja Ninja]

32. You're not going to unify the party by telling the liberal majority to ...

get in the back seat and shut up. We can't criticize the GOP for being robots and then admire them for being robots all the while touting our big tent.

Last week I got a fund raising call from the senate Democrats asking me for money to "elect better Democrats"! If we have Democrats that aren't good enough then WTF are they doing in our party?
I also got a call from the congressional Democrats touting their health care bill while giving the thumbs down to the senate version.

Sound unifying?

The simple truth is that we invite division by welcoming centrists into the party. The big tent thing sounds good on paper but it's killing the party. And if we didn't let in the centrists they would be over in the GOP causing them problems instead of us.

[laughingliberal]

36. Yeah, the STFU and quit all this dissenting shit has sounded an awful lot like:

Republicans are awful! Let's be just like them!

How in the hell did DUers deride the blindly following along with all things Bush on the part of Republicans and then come here and scream at us to do the same thing.

[Edweird]

35. hmm.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7522644

[Bluerthanblue]

37. Brown won because he tapped into fear and anger-

they are powerful motivators.

The 'division of the party' you speak of here on DU is usually fueled by the very same things- (imo)

'anger is the weapon we hold by the blade'-
jm barrie

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[smalll]

41. Simple. Because he's no Martha Chokely. /nt

[Individualist]

42. You can give credit to DLC for dividing the party.

They will continue doing so because their goal is to destroy the party from within.

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[grahamhgreen]

44. He won because HCR is a bullcrap rip-off and everyone hates it! simple.

[jgraz]

45. It's that damn kid! HE'S the reason the Emperor is naked!!

How DARE he notice!

[butterfly77]

46. They won because...

HE LIES!!!