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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:47 AM
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Glenn Greenwald: It's the fault of the all-powerful Left
I have a contribution this morning to the New York Times examining the Scott Brown victory, and I'll post the link to it once it's up. But for the moment, I want to address two equally moronic themes emerging over the last couple of days which seek to blame the omnipotent, dominant, super-human "Left" for the Democrats' woes -- one coming from right-wing Democrats and the other from hard-core Obama loyalists (those two categories are not mutually exclusive but, rather, often overlap).

Last night, Evan Bayh blamed the Democrats' problems on "the furthest left elements," which he claims dominates the Democratic Party -- seriously. And in one of the dumbest and most dishonest Op-Eds ever written, Lanny Davis echoes that claim in The Wall St. Journal: "Blame the Left for Massachusetts" (Davis attributes the unpopularity of health care reform to the "liberal" public option and mandate; he apparently doesn't know that the health care bill has no public option (someone should tell him), that the public option was one of the most popular provisions in the various proposals, and the "mandate" is there to please the insurance industry, not "the Left," which, in the absence of a public option, hates the mandate; Davis' claim that "candidate Obama's health-care proposal did not include a public option" is nothing short of an outright lie).

In what universe must someone be living to believe that the Democratic Party is controlled by "the Left," let alone "the furthest left elements" of the Party? As Ezra Klein says, the Left "ha(s) gotten exactly nothing they wanted in recent months." The Left wanted a single-payer system, then settled for a public option, then an opt-out public option, then Medicare expansion -- only to get none of it, instead being handed a bill that forces every American to buy health insurance from the private insurance industry. Nor was it "the Left" -- but rather corportist Democrats like Evan Bayh and Lanny Davis -- who cheered for the hated Wall Street bailout; blocked drug re-importation; are stopping genuine reform of the financial industry; prevented a larger stimulus package to lower unemployment; refuse to allow programs to help Americans with foreclosures; supported escalation in Afghanistan (twice); and favor the same Bush/Cheney terrorism policies of indefinite detention, military commissions, and state secrets.

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And then there is the "Blame the Left" theme from Obama loyalists, who actually claim that the Democrats' problems are due to the fact that the Left hasn't been cheering loudly enough for the Leader. I recall quite vividly how Bush followers spent years claiming that the failings of the Iraq War were not the fault of George Bush -- who had control of the entire war, the entire Congress, and the power to do everything he wanted -- but, rather, it was all "the Left's" fault for excessively criticizing the President, and thus weakening both him and the war effort.

To insist that the Democratic Party's failures are not the fault of Barack Obama -- who controls the entire party infrastructure, its agenda, the news cycle, and the health care plan -- we now hear from Obama supporters a similar claim: it's all the Left's fault for excessively criticizing the Leader. A couple of days ago, Josh Marshall promoted -- and Kevin Drum endorsed -- a post that made this claim:

And we can look no further than Howard Dean, and MSNBC, and Arianna Huffington, and, yes, some columnists at the Times and bloggers here at TPM--you know, real progressives--who have lambasted Obama again and again since last March over arguable need-to-haves like the "public option," as if nobody else was listening. They've been thinking: "Oh, if only we ran things, how much more subtle would the legislation be," as if 41 senators add up to subtle. Meanwhile the undecideds are thinking: "Hell, if his own people think he's a sell-out and jerk, why should we support this?"

The reason "the Left" criticized the Iraq War was because . . . they thought it was a bad thing and thus opposed it. The reason some on the Left have been criticizing the health care plan and other Obama policies (the ones I listed above) is because . . . they think they're bad things and thus oppose them. For instance, health care opponents believe that forcing Americans to buy private insurance that they can't afford and/or do not want is bad policy and will harm the Democrats politically. That's what rational citizens do: they support proposals that they think are good and oppose the ones they think are bad. What are people on "the Left" supposed to do: go on television and into their columns and lie by pretending they support things that they actually oppose, all in order to sustain high levels of affection and excitement for Barack Obama? Someone who would do that is what we call a dishonest propagandist and party loyalist, and, in any event, is unlikely to have any credibility with anyone beyond already-converted, fellow Obama admirers.

A political party is actually much healthier and stronger when criticisms of the Leader are permitted. Ask the Republicans circa 2005 and 2006 about how a party fares when party-loyalty and leader-loyalty trump all other considerations. Moreover, if a political party adopts a strategy of ignoring its base, as the Democrats routinely do, it's an inevitable cost that the base will become dispirited and unmotivated. As Darcy Burner put it yesterday: "Perhaps if the Democratic base doesn't show up to elect Coakley, party leadership should consider *trying to appeal* to the base." There's a reason it's called "the base" -- it's because it's the foundation of the party -- and, as the Republicans never forget, there is a serious cost to ignoring or spurning them.

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http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/01/20/left
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:52 AM
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1. We may not have anywhere else to go, but we'll now have more money not going there...
the GAYTM is closed.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:53 AM
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2. lovin it!
:rofl:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:54 AM
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3. knr nt
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:56 AM
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4. If I could recommend this 100 times, I would.
Alas, no multiple sock puppets! ;)
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:57 AM
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5. Excellent, simply excellent K&R n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:58 AM
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6. Hey...I know some douche bags here who live in that parallel universe!
What a small and sad world that one can share an opinion with the likes of Evan Bayh!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:24 AM
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11. As it is supported by all the power of the Corporate M$M, the False Reality Bubble you speak of
is shared by upwards of 98% of the American Subject Populace.

Our current system is, by far, the most sophisticated propaganda machine in human history and the last 10 years have showed me how futile it is to try to fight it.

As we watch the replay of this episode which we've seen before, watch out, because in TV and movies and advertising, sequels have to be a much more wild ride to keep the interest of the audience.

Also, I don't expect TPTB/Aristocracy to let Obama win in 2013 again, as things are getting bad fast and they seem to be in quite a hurry.

Never did I think that one day I would live in a nation as delusional and disconnected from history as the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, but our Empire is just that from top to bottom. Nothing good can come from such a starting point, that much is certain.

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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:09 AM
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24. amazingly surprised to agree 100% with the above TomPaine
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:10 AM by whirlygigspin
n/t
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:01 AM
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7. Highly Recommended!
I couldn't agree more.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:06 AM
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8. K&R . I agree very strongly. //nt
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:19 AM
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9. That description certainly lines up with my own experiences.
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 11:20 AM by Marr
The only people blaming the left right now are right-wing "Democrats" and hardcore Obama fans. Their arguments are the same ones we mocked Republicans for just a few years ago, when they defended Bush from well-deserved criticism.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:21 AM
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10. Excellent excellent excellent! now if these same folks stay in this denial we will lose both houses
and Obama will be one term..

We liberals and progressives need to get ahead of this propaganda and we need to shut down these DLC talking points and we need to send a clear message to the DLC TYPES AND TO THE WHITE HOUSE..WE ARE MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE!

Fire the bastards who are shitting on Liberals and progressives..today!

and start acting like democrats and the principles of democrats.

see my points here>>>>>>


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7513194


Thank you Op for posting and a huge Thank you to Glenn Greenwald !!!
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:29 AM
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12. Recd and bookmarked
My whole interpretation of the "Blame the Left" phenomenon is that a number of people don't want Obama and the White House to take the Left any more seriously because of the MA loss. Especially corporatist tools like Lanny Davis and Evan Bayh.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:58 AM
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13. K&R
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Irish_shark Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:00 PM
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14. Evan Bayh, whose wife makes millions off WellPoint, blames the left
How convenient. Great piece by Greenwald.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:01 PM
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15. KICK
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:05 PM
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16. Greenwald is absolutely correct here.
The progressive left, it seems, is only around to get blamed for things. We certainly never get anything for our trouble, our money or our time.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:06 PM
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17. Damn. K&R. nt
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:08 PM
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18. K&R
:thumbsup:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:14 PM
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19. K & R
Excellent
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:21 PM
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20. most excellent
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:42 PM
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21. Indeed
:hi:
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:54 PM
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22. If the Corporacrats think they had their ass ...
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 10:55 PM by DisgustedInMN
... handed to 'em last night...

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:48 AM
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23. K&R
And to paraphrase: "There's a reason it's called "the base" -- it's because it's the foundation of the party -- and, as the" (Retardlicans) "never forget, there is a serious cost to ignoring or spurning them."

sums it up short.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:50 AM
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25. Kicked and recommended! Oh yeah, one more thing...
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 09:50 AM by Raster

FUCK YOU, Evan Bayh! You are a disgrace to the Democratic Party.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:09 AM
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26. Lanny Davis is a POS that no one could possibly take seriously
and I put Evan Bayh in the same category.

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:57 AM
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27. Did you see Lanny on Olbermann last night?
He said he was a strong liberal in support of the public option but it's just not possible right now. It was nauseating.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:08 AM
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28. He is always nauseating.
I posted this before, but I was treated to hearing him bashing Dems on the Hannity radio show one time along with a woman Dem supposed consultant named Susan. They were really goiing to town when the woman said, "Lanny, we need to remember that some of our "friends" may be listening". I almost veered into a ditch. He is no friend or consultant to the Democrats in my view and anyone who listens to a word out of his mouth is a fool.
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