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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:47 AM
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The Rude Pundit: Random Observations on Last Night's Massachusetts Knockout
1. Oh, grow a fucking pair already, whiny goddamn Democrats like Anthony Weiner or Barney Frank. You should be out there shredding Republicans, saying that they want to take us back to the policies of the Bush administration. Put that shit on repeat and use it. The biggest failure of the Democrats since the election of Barack Obama is that they have not made Republicans own the presidency of George W. Bush. It should become ingrained that "Republican=Bush." And the fact that it's not at this point means that idiots are running message for the Democrats. Americans are, for the most part, historical amnesiacs. They've already forgotten how our condition of being deeply fucked was a result of the very policies that Scott Brown ran on.

2. Let's give credit where it's due. Scott Brown won the Senate race fair and square, by campaigning like the underdog son of a bitch he was until a week ago. Martha Coakley should have acted like Hillary Clinton did in her re-election campaign in 2006. Clinton went all out when she didn't even have a real opponent because she knew how quickly the tide could turn against an incumbent, even though she had a 20 percent lead in most polls, even though she won by 31 percent. That's what you do.

3. Briefly (because anger must be released): Fuck you, Massachusetts. Not just for Brown's election, but for voting for Coakley in the Democratic primary. And fuck you because you already have health care program in your state, which made it a fuck of a lot easier to not give a shit about the rest of the nation (and means that it wasn't really about health care). Fuck you, White House and DSCC, for not seeing this coming.

4. While we're bemoaning the loss of the super-duper majority, we have to remember that so many in the Senate Democratic caucus are weaselly fuckers. What were the odds that skeevy Joe Lieberman wasn't going to dick over the Senate Democrats again when it came down to actually voting for health care reform? Or that the cowardly Evan Bayh (among other weasels) wasn't going to cave?

5. Since we are amnesiacs, let's not forget: Among the reasons that Bush was able to get whatever he wanted through the Congress for over five years, two stand out: 9/11 and lying. Had the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 not happened, the Bush presidency was going to be a fucking joke of tax cuts for the rich, culture wars, and trying to figure out how to bomb Iraq. Remember Jim Jeffords switching parties? Remember the stem cell speech? 9/11 happens, and all of a sudden everything is crisis and fear and threats of recrimination and Democrats get rolled, repeatedly. As for the lying, that's not just the wars. It's also the way that Ted Kennedy got burned twice by Bush - on No Child Left Behind and on the Medicare prescription drug act. Kennedy believed Bush and the Republicans would behave honorably and fully fund things. He was lied to. But Bush got to say for the rest of his presidency that he did something for kids and old people.

So what's the lesson? That Obama needs a bomb to go off in a mall? That he needs to make promises he won't keep to Republicans? The sad part is that if a terrorist attack happened, Republicans would immediately start riots against Obama, just as they would have done had Al Gore been president on 9/11. And Republicans aren't even going to sit down at the table on major legislation Obama wants. So what?

6. The lesson is that, in nearly every election, fear works. How did Republicans turn so many people against health care reform (see note below) and against Obama? Because they scared them. Republicans can, with a straight face, call Obama and Democrats "socialist" or whatever bugaboo word they want and then say that Democrats are to blame for the lack of bipartisanship. That's some shameless shit there. But it works.

Rhetorically, Republicans were articulating this message: "You will die and the government will take your money." Democrats, meanwhile, were stammering, "But, no, wait, pre-existing conditions, insurance exchange, 'Cadillac' health plans." While he might not have been the slickest messenger, Rep. Alan Grayson had the message right: life and death. "What if you lose your job? What if your kids need the doctor?" That would have required a bill that was clear in its objective, instead of whatever mutant clusterfuck of a thing is shat out of whatever committee or negotiating group is trying to bribe someone into voting.

If Republicans had wanted universal health care, you would have seen commercials with heartless insurance agents stabbing babies and drinking their blood. You would have seen ads with desperate, laid-off old men offering to blow people for quarters so they could afford their insulin. You would have seen ads about how sad it is that a depressed middle-aged woman with a dream of a scrapbooking store is now suicidal over not being able to follow her small business dream because if she left her shitty office job, she'd lose her health care. The ad would have ended with a gunshot in darkness. People would have been begging for health care reform because Republicans would have made it seem like the world would fall apart without it.

Hope was a great message to get Obama elected. But it only goes so far. Conservatives used fear to create the teabaggers. Republicans used fear in Massachusetts. Fear of "terrorists" being put on trial in America. Fear of mythical higher taxes. Republicans are using fear on members of Congress, as in "Pass these things and you will be voted out." Fear fucking works.

(Note: the Rude Pundit is leaving out the angry progressives who oppose health care reform in its current form and think the Senate bill sucks because it doesn't even contain a public option, let alone universal health care. That's a separate issue, and since health care reform is up in the air now, who the fuck knows where it's gonna land and in what form.)

7. Buck up, once again, once again, motherfuckers. It's flee, fight, or roll over and get fucked. And the Rude Pundit's not ready to flee. And he prefers to do the fucking. The problem is figuring out who to fight.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:52 AM
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1. "Republicans would have made it seem like the world would fall apart without it."
I've said it before, and now I'll say it again: We can, and should, use GOP tactics, because we can use them while telling the fucking truth.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:49 AM
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15. +1
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:55 AM
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2. I can't STAND that blogger
I use foul language every now and then, but in his case he thinks he's another Mark Morford but with the schtick of using obscenities for shock value. All it does is get in the way of his "writing," if you call his rants writing.

The reason for last night's debacle is simple: Democrats, especially Obama, need to focus on job creation and the economy. They aren't doing this, and voters are sending a message that, if it goes unheeded, will lead to a bloodbath in November.
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:04 PM
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5. Which...
... part of "rude" is it you don't understand?

If you are so "offended" by "that blogger," why the fuck would you click on to a thread with "that blogger's" handle in the title?



(Rhetorical question) Never mind, it's pretty obvious.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:11 PM
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7. No fucking shit, right?
For fuck's sake...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:19 PM
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11. *roffle*
Oh so very well said. :)


And a K&R for the rude one...
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:42 PM
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20. Error: You can't recommend this thread
I can kick it, though.

:kick: for the Rude One. If I wasn't so old, I'd bear all his children*.

-MV
*obscure late-night-TV reference
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:30 PM
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9. Then don't read his shit.
He's got an overarching point to make which is obviously lost on you.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:41 PM
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10. i think its his name you should have read...
and be careful, weve been known to offer a resounding FUCK every now and again too.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:50 AM
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21. How can this important need be ignored?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:58 AM
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22. "Oh, Gwendolyn! Please don't forget to put the tea cozy back in place, there's a love!"
Sheesh. Deal.
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:59 AM
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3. Now, THERE'S a Democrat.
Take some notes, Harry and Nancy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:03 PM
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4. Rudie nails it again
Rec
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:06 PM
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6. LOL!
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:16 PM
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8. K&R. GREAT point about learning how to deliver a simple, straightforward
message a la Alan Grayson!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:01 PM
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12. KICK
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:04 PM
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13. Copies of this should be sent to all Dems in COngress.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:46 AM
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14. kr
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:00 AM
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16. Well done, with one exception. Romneycare
"and means that it wasn't really about health care"

Weren't we told all along that Romneycare was so bad, but now we hear that MA didn't care about the HCR debate because they got theirs?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6234214

Listen, I don't know enough to speak intelligibly about Romneycare and I am the first to admit it, but something does not smell right and I have learned to trust my instincts. Of course, I am wise enough to know I am not the sharpest tool and am often wrong.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:37 AM
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17. Why isn't the Rude Pundit the chair of the DNC?
Can you imagine the ass we'd kick with someone that had the same attitude?
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 12:07 PM
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18. Rude Pundit for Press Secretary
"Ask me a question motherf*****s, I dare you."
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zenprole Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:19 PM
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19. #3 with a bullet
Fuck you, rudeski. The Massachusetts Democrats have had this coming for 30+ years. They earned it, and there's a special joy attached to this defeat (on the South Shore, where I'm from, Coakley was simply massacred). Residents of MA can trade stories of the dozens of outrages large and small the Party has inflicted on their lives. A few stunning whoppers come to mind, not the least of which is the 2004 change that instituted a special election for when President Kerry (sic) took office.

And do your goddamned homework before bloviating in public. MA does not have "a health care program" so they can "not give a shit about the rest of the nation." The MA program is a preview of the disaster now in Congress: force people who can't afford it to buy too-expensive policies that suck hard and cover little. (Have you seen the offerings? I didn't think so.) 'Universal' is not 'single payer' or 'public option,' it's 'bend over, or face the tax man's wrath and/or state violence.'

Good to see you're past this nonsense about 60-vote supermajorities, though. Whether possessed of 35, 59, or 80 votes in the Senate, we don't have an opposition party. Fucking deal with it, dude.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:47 PM
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23. Rec'd, for
skeevy Joe Lieberman and for excellent use of the word shat.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:48 PM
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24. The Reasons the Democrats Haven't Made the Republicons Own
The presidency of George W. Bush is that they went along with it hook line and sinker from the day of the dreadful Supreme Court Decision...tax cuts for the rich, approval of Supreme Court nominees, the Patriot Act, the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - taking impeachment off the table - the list goes on.
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