AndyA
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:14 PM
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So...according to the SCOTUS, money has the freedom of speech! |
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I've yet to meet a hundred dollar bill that could speak. Those coins jingling around in our pockets must be talking to us in Klingon or something.
The more I think about this, the more outraged I get. What a ridiculous theory that corporations are people. And if that's the case, then corporations must be held responsible like every other person. CRIMINALLY LIABLE if they do harm to another.
It can't be either or.
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:15 PM
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1. Money talks and bullshit walks |
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Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 06:16 PM by kenny blankenship
(and the money for our walking shoes will be deducted from our wages)
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:16 PM
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:15 PM
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2. Now the Gieco bundle of cash will be able to talk on the commercials. It was waiting... |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:17 PM
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Is it a bad thing because corporations will be paying a lot of money to networks?
Or is it a bad thing that corporations will be airing their political message on those networks?
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:33 PM
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8. Both of those are "bad things." |
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The American corporate media is already dishonest and dysfuntional- and the American political system is already, to put it bluntly- driven by bribery.
This decision makes matters exponentially worse in terms of the ability to enact responsible reforms and respond in a timely manner to the myriad challenges of the 21st Century.
I rather feel sorry for Americans at this point- even though many us us saw this coming since last summer, it still a huge step toward Gilded Age style corruption and abuse, coupled with increasingly third world style economic conditions.
Could be that the members of the court and the weathy elite don't think this will adversely affect them.
They are wrong.
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:39 PM
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11. "is it a bad thing that corporations will be airing their political message on those networks?" |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:41 PM
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So it's not an issue of money being speech.
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:17 PM
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5. How do you think the five |
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goodness knows whatchamecallems got where they are.. money money money money. And the surely have to pay everyone of them back.
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:22 PM
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6. SCOTUS then (Dred Scott): persons are property. SCOTUS now: peoperties are persons. nt |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:24 PM
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7. Money has always had 'the freedom of speech', it's prolly best to admit it & codify it as such |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:34 PM
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9. No, just richer people's speech is freer than your's and mine...n/t |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:38 PM
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:40 PM
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12. Every dollar is equal. |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:41 PM
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13. Sadly, most of my dollars have choo-choo trains on them. n/t |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:44 PM
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15. hell, moneys talked in the halls of congress for many, many years |
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:47 PM
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16. That's because money is a form of "symbolic speech." |
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And one need not actually speak in order for it to be "symbolic speech." Burning the flag, as another example, is a form of symbolic speech.
However, I do wish that this measure would be more thoughtfully rendered. Money in politics needs to be constitutionally defined and adjudicated, because it challenges the democratic process.
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:50 PM
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17. I'm gaining a new respect for the Geico little pile of cash with the googly eyes |
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I feel like electing him to the Senate instead of Lieberman.
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Thu Jan-21-10 06:50 PM
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18. Corporations are held criminally liable for crimes. |
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That is long standing law. Nothing needs to be changed there.
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Thu Jan-21-10 07:03 PM
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When are Goldman Sachs, AIG, etc., showing up to serve their prison terms for the (almost) worldwide financial collapse they caused in 2008?
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Thu Jan-21-10 07:36 PM
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They would have to indict them and prosecute them in a trial.
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Thu Jan-21-10 07:13 PM
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20. Name one person who is serving time for the death of a worker. |
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Not a fine. Real hard time.
otherwise stop spreading your ignorance.
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Thu Jan-21-10 07:46 PM
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22. There are many cases of prison time. |
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It looks like you are the ignorant one here. But I'm sure it is not the first itme. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/reprint/90/4/535.pdf
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