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Thu Jan-21-10 08:48 PM
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On a scale of 1-10; 10 being "blood pressure off the charts", how mad are you? I'm at 8, on my way to 9, probably be a firm 10 by summer. It's time for a 10 million person march on Washington, with pitchforks in hand, DEMANDING change.
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Failure of meaningful health care reform High and relentless unemployment Bailouts and obscene bonuses to banksters Wall Street criminals running the Treasury and Fed Congress bought and paid for by corporate America SCOTUS decision that will complete the sale of Washington DC to corporate America Property values and net worth of the middle class continuing to plummet Devaluation of the dollar Government statistics that are intentionally skewed to hide true unemployment and inflation figures
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Thu Jan-21-10 08:51 PM
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1. the American Idol president is having a hard time selling his music to republicans lol nt |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:32 PM
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Thu Jan-21-10 08:54 PM
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2. How many consecutive years are we expected to be "mad as hell"? |
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For me, it's already been about 7 years, ever since we invaded Iraq. Some DUers have been "mad as hell" going back even farther.
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:00 PM
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5. I've been mad as hell since December 12, 2000. |
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That's the day America ceased being the nation I loved and was very proud of...
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:31 PM
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21. That's the incident I had in mind. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 09:38 PM by Quantess
I was pretty upset at that too, but personally I didn't start getting boiling mad until early 2003.
The Supreme Court decision to appoint Bush president in 2000 was what inspired Skinner (and whoever else was a founder) to create Democratic Underground. Edit to add: In case you didn't know already!
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:01 PM
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33. I am glad DU was created... |
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I'm glad I can come to a place where I can vent about the direction this country is headed... without ignorant right-wingers adding their two cents. God knows I can't vent IRL here in Redneckistan.
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:20 PM
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36. There's a good reason that DU discussion boards are only for Dems and/or liberals. |
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We have enough to argue about amongst ourselves! RWers are obnoxious more often than not, anyway (on discussion forums, especially, because that's when their socially repressed demons come flying out!)
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:38 PM
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24. I've been mad as hell since November 1972 |
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When Nixon's dirty tricks got him re-elected. There've been a few bright moments since, but politics always return me to the mad as hell state.
How anybody can rationally blame the problems in this country on the "liberals" is beyond me. We have not had liberals in charge ever in my lifetime. Since Nixon, Democrats have held the White House for all of 13 years out of the last 37 years. And of those Democratic Presidents, Obama is the only one with a hint of "liberal" to him and he is not a Liberal.
So whose policies have destroyed this county? NOT the Liberals!
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:45 PM
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37. I think Carter was far more liberal than Obama is |
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Carter-- Supported the Equal Rights Amendment Got a visionary energy policy going (that was promptly shit-canned by Reagan) Didn't get us into any wars Had an overall decent foreign policy which focused on human rights, eventually won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts Set aside large areas of land for conservation Tried to lead by example (walking the Inauguration route, keeping the thermostat low, installing solar panels at the White House) Tried to get Detroit to make cars that were more fuel-efficient Didn't sign on to anything that was blatantly unconstitutional like wiretapping
Sure, one can nitpick things about Carter, but overall I think he has been our most Liberal President since 1969.
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:52 PM
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39. By today's standards, yes |
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But back in the late 70s we thought that Georgia peanut farmer could not possibly be a liberal. I wish we had been more aware and supported him better because I am sure he is a good man who has tried to do the best for our country and for the world.
I always said of all the men who had been president in my lifetime, Carter was the only one I'd want to actually meet. The jury is still out on Obama - right now I would be too pissed to have a civil conversation with the man.
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Fri Jan-22-10 12:00 AM
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41. Yes, the jokes about the Georgia peanut farmer |
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and his comment about looking lustfully at women being akin to committing adultery didn't help his liberal image. And I myself thought that John Anderson, a former(?) Republican, was the most liberal Presidential candidate in 1980. But looking back on it, I think Anderson may have been just a stealth candidate who was in there merely to take some liberal votes away from Carter. I regret to say that I voted for Anderson. My only consolation is that, even if all of the Anderson votes in Arkansas had gone for Carter, Carter still would have lost the state by a wide margin.
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Fri Jan-22-10 03:15 AM
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45. I did vote for Carter - Mr. csziggy's brother campaigned for him |
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Rosalynn stayed at their mother's house on her first campaign trip through Florida. But I wasn't paying as much attention to politics in 1976-80 - last year of college, marriage and other things took up too much of my time.
Carter played the religion thing well, considering his Southern Baptist background and how he managed to keep a moderate image with such a liberal agenda.
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:04 PM
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9. The pressure has been building for years...I believe we're |
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headed for a period of cultural and political turmoil that will make the 1960s seem like a walk in the park
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Thu Jan-21-10 10:17 PM
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26. I agree. There's a fresh new outrage around every corner. |
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For a few months I was in good spirits about politics, but the rose has faded.
I don't know what it will take for people to be truly outraged, hopping mad, wielding pitchforks and torches. Maybe never, if enough mind numbing sets in.
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Thu Jan-21-10 10:25 PM
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28. The flame that will set the torch on fire is millions |
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of unemployed people, particularly young males, who will be running out of options in the not too distant future.
Unemployment will be the catalyst, but shortly thereafter the unbridled greed, graft, and corruption of corporate America and our government will be the targets of unchecked public wrath.
No government can withstand that kind of social unrest.
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Thu Jan-21-10 10:35 PM
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29. That should be the next logical step, but |
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I wonder if that's an overestimation of the intellectual capacities of average Americans?
Have you ever seen the film Idiocracy? Anyway, I'm not sure the mega-corporations will ever get their fair share of comeuppance.
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Thu Jan-21-10 10:54 PM
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31. If average Americans are not reaching the tipping point |
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of patience and tolerance, with all the graft, greed, and corruption right in their faces; I would have to say this country is a lost cause.
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Fri Jan-22-10 12:22 AM
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44. Off topic but not really.... |
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I recommend the film Idiocracy. It's a comedy, but it's also bitter and scathing commentary, deep down. It came out in 2005 or so. My mom borrowed it from her local library after I asked her to watch it. :)
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:05 AM
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Been "mad as hell" for 10+ years and fought the power to no avail. We fought the law and the law won.
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:17 AM
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49. Are you mad enough to start actively supporting and voting for Liberals yet though? |
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If you want real "Change" in the way things are done in DC, that is the way to do it. I know I am there, are you?
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Thu Jan-21-10 08:54 PM
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3. Not to mention complete protection of the Bush war criminals |
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Mad as hell?
Believe me, I've tried to put my feelings into words.
I've tried every combination of four-letter epithets I can think of.
None of them scratches the surface.
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Thu Jan-21-10 08:55 PM
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4. I'm not mad,I'm terrified. |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:03 PM
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6. Yep. The world as we know it will end in 2012. Just like it was predicted. nt |
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:39 PM
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57. Same here...I think about some of it and literally get sick to my stomach n/t |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:03 PM
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7. Not Really, Life Is Too Short and Anger Causes IQ To Drop |
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I often tell my kids to try to think things out, rather than give in to anger, and do things they regret. Heck, I look at the Tea Party types, and see the stupid shit they endorse.
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:03 PM
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I was a 10 Tuesday night after Scott Brown won Teddy's seat.
Now, with the latest Supreme Court ruling giving corporations control of American politics.. I'm at an 11.
Welcome to the United States of America, Inc.
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:28 PM
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55. Exactly....and we're all employees, nothing more. |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:06 PM
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11. 2, and that's only b/c I had a root canal this week. |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:07 PM
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12. I passed 10 on Tuesday. |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:08 PM
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13. I passed 10 on Tuesday. |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:09 PM
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16. Posting the same thing twice makes you about a 12. LOL |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:08 PM
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I figured long ago that being very angry doesn't accomplish much, allows others to control my emotions, and caused me to make rash decisions.
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:09 PM
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15. 12. But I don't blame Obama. I blame the Senate. |
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I really hate these bastards.
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:13 PM
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:28 AM
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We fell asleep decades ago, and have only just begun to awaken. Our anger is unfocused as yet.
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:13 PM
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17. Are you mad as hell yet?. ...about a decade now. nt |
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Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 09:14 PM by seabeyond
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:14 PM
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19. 11, started on December 12, 2000 |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:31 PM
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20. Nothing like a little unholy rage for your 666th post! |
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Congratulations! :evilgrin:
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:41 PM
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25. Wholly (Holy) unintentional, however the irony was not lost on me! |
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Thu Jan-21-10 09:37 PM
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23. Been there a long,long time ago.. |
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many who have now awaken,are only angry now because they now are feeling what many of us have been feeling for years.
We have always wanted our country back as we watched repugs taking away all of our rights. Many who thought they were comfortable didn't want to hear what was going on so now,they join a teaparty with the people who brought them this mess.
Too bad that they don't know that they are getting "fooled again" Dumbasses!
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Thu Jan-21-10 10:37 PM
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30. I won't stand with racist asshole teabaggers |
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Thu Jan-21-10 10:59 PM
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32. I'm at about a 7 or 8. |
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I'm definitely ready to march with you :)
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:03 PM
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34. I am trying to keep this bottled inside me: |
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:12 PM
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35. A picture is worth a thousand words.......n/t |
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:47 PM
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38. Anger profits a man nothing |
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Fri Jan-22-10 09:35 AM
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46. I think anger is a fine motivator.....n/t |
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Thu Jan-21-10 11:57 PM
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40. Are you mad as hell yet? |
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I'm not sure if it is "Mad" that I feel. More like outrage, shock, disbelief and a burning desire to do something about it. I want to fight back!!!!
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Fri Jan-22-10 12:03 AM
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42. Given a few weeks advance notice, I'll be one of the "10 million). Let's do it. nt |
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Fri Jan-22-10 12:06 AM
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43. Started for me on 12/19/98. |
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Reached peak on 12/12/00 and hasn't really diminished since. Our current President isn't helping much, though I'm waiting to be surprised.
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:03 AM
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47. I'm at a 9, heading towards a 10. |
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:20 AM
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50. Well passed angry, n/t |
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:47 AM
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52. have been for a very long time |
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I collapsed under the weight of it a few years ago, quite literally. I took a long break, and now can only read a fraction of what I used to read. It just gets to be too much.... It is debilitating. The stress of actually living it is bad enough without reading the details.
Sometimes I think it *would* be better to let the wretched republicans win. Then the disappointments would be coming faster and harder and with any luck the spark of anger vs the corporations and banks and their collusion with the government will grow faster. What we get with dems is a kinder, gentler fascism... we are still headed down the same path only without quite so much violence. It would be horrible though, and please don't think I am advocating that, it just seems like we would hit rock bottom that much faster and get to start real rebuilding out of the destruction that much sooner.
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:18 PM
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54. I think you've put into words what many, many |
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people are thinking. When the refrigerator is full of moldy, spoiled food, all you can do is throw it all out and start over.
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:30 PM
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56. YEAH! I'M GOING TO USE THE CLICHE! |
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I'M MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:42 PM
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58. i'm past anger...past denial...past bargaining...i'm just about to acceptance. |
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Sat Jan-23-10 10:16 AM
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60. I think acceptance, or perhaps acquiescence, is how |
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we got to the point we're currently at. I know it's hard to fight back; people are busy raising families, looking for work, working 12 hour days just to keep a job if they have one. Meanwhile, the politicians, banksters, and unethical corporate interests, now with the able assistance of the SCOTUS, are stealing the very country that we live in; that millions have fought and died for to protect, and they're doing it with absolutely no sense of shame or remorse.
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Fri Jan-22-10 10:45 PM
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59. I've been at about 9.5 since 2000 |
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Left the country after the Bush selection, as I vowed to do; unfortunately, found myself back here in 2005. We're all fucked, and we'll take the whole world down with us, no doubt, but life looks much sweeter from Europe, folks.
At least until the dawn of Sharia law.
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