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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:04 AM
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If DU tonight is any indication, I think Democrats found their issue to run on this year

Seems the over-reaching of the SCOTUS today is the first thing in a while to unite all Democrats, Progressives, Liberals, and leftists everywhere.

Probably the first issue we've been this much in agreement on since Bush's presidency.


It's the first time in a long time that I've seen DU this angry at the same thing. Lots of events this past year have had us carping at each other....


...but not this. The threat of permanent serfdom for the population seems to be focusing our collective minds.



If only the teabaggers actually believed in the ideals of the ORIGINAL tea party, they'd be joining us.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:08 AM
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1. I noticed that too
I HATE that this happened but glad that most of us are on the same page with this.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:04 AM
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26. This WOULD be a big issue if only Democrats chose to DEMAGOGUE it the way Republicans do.
But Democrats won't. They'll get all ETHICAL and give long winded pleading polite speeches and talk about reaching across the isle like the wimps in the White House and the Chief of Wimps, Rahm Emanuel. But hey. Rahm really knows what he's doing and deserves our support and love.

Don't you know? Corporations really ARE people. It's true. Why, just the other day I was walking past a corporation's office and it started talking to me. It said,

This this this this
is is is
the
intergalactic galactic force force force force.
You you you you
must must must
obey obey obey obey.
You you you
can
not not not
resist resist resist resist.

Okay, so you're complaining about the corporations. But. Did you ever consider the corporation's FEELINGS? Corporations have feelings TOO ya know!

EQUAL RIGHTS FOR CORPORATIONS!
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR CORPORATIONS!
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR CORPORATIONS!

Corporations should have the same right to vote as YOU do, buddy!

CORPORATE SUFFRAGE NOW!
CORPORATE SUFFRAGE NOW!
CORPORATE SUFFRAGE NOW!

And they should have the right to get married like you do!
Corporations need love!

CORPORATIONS NEED TO MAKE BABIES!

IT COULD BE DONE WITH ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION!

I DEMAND A SPERM BANK BE SET ASIDE FOR CORPORATIONS RIGHT NOW!

People have sperm.

WHY NOT CORPORATIONS????????????????????!

IF YOU DON'T THINK CORPORATIONS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ARTIFICIALLY INSEMINATED THEN YOU'RE A BIGOT!

And what about breathing?
People have been sucking up the oxygen LONG ENOUGH, buddy, let ME tell YOU!
It's time to suck the oxygen out of people's homes and give it to the underprivileged corporations!

Corporations are being persecuted against!
Corporations need to eat food!
We need a federal agency to break into people's homes, steal their food and dump it into a chute in the side of every corporation!

Let's all go on a protest march for corporations!
What slogans should we chant on the march?
Hm. Lemme see.

One! Two! Three! Four!
Corporations need more!
Five! Six! Seven! Eight!
Corporations sure are great!

You know what? People have sex change operations.
WHY NOT CORPORATIONS!
Forcing corporations to be gender neutral is JUST SO SEXIST!

And did you ever consider how cruel it is to spay a cat?

WHAT ABOUT CORPORATIONS!???????

All you people are talking about NEUTERING corporations!
Would you deprive a darling little kittypooh of it's right to find love in the world and grow up and have babies of its own?

SAME WITH CORPORATIONS!
NEUTERING CORPORATIONS IS CRUELTY TO ANIMALS!
We need to start a new organization, People for the Ethical Treatment of Corporations!








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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:08 AM
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2. It's the same theme that made many of us pissed at a corporate insurance mandate.
I really think that is why Obama walked into a buzzsaw. It's all anger at abusive corporations who rip us off, move our jobs to India and play suicide bomber so we bail them out.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:11 AM
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3. I won't stand with racist teabaggers
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:12 AM by proud patriot
they better leave their teabags at home and bring the Coffee .
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:23 AM
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12. Me neither. They have caused enough damage.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:13 AM
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4. GOP Majority Leader McConnell and Leader, House, Boehner both
think it is great.

Some Freeper is in ecstacy over all the money Palin will get.

See why there is a disconnect and the different world views
of the two Parties.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:15 AM
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6. I think a majority of America will be with us on this if we frame it right
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Duende azul Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:45 AM
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23. You have point there. But the dems haven't proven to be capable of framing things right.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:15 AM
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5. it sure beats the self-loathing and Dem-hatred that DU's been full of for the last year
I'll take it! How much you want for it? Give you tree fiddy.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:15 AM
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7. If Corporations want personhood, time for a Corporate Death Penalty!
Just a modest proposal there...
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:17 AM
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8. I think the utility of this as an election issue...
...is going to depend to some extent upon how companies chose to exercise their newfound power during the campaign cycle. If they're subtle about it, then people might say "What's the big deal? This is no different than any other election." Now, if they start filling every damn TV ad slot, every radio ad spot, every newspaper ad slot with campaign gunk, send 100 pieces of direct mail to your door every day, and robocall you while you're already answering another robocall and have to put that one on hold... Then yeah, there might be some serious public outcry.

Also, some in the Democratic fundraising organization better have fucking called Google and Apple today and asked for about a billion fucking dollars from each.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:21 AM
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10. self delete.
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 AM by zonkers
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:19 AM
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9. I think it might even hit home with the sane, repeat, sane right...
once they realize that foreign countries now have a direct say, through advertising dollars, in the U.S. elections because they own shares in MANY multinational corporations ie Saudi Arabia holdings, China's holdings, etc.

Once they 'get that' that will scare the shit out of them as well, imo.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 AM
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11. Sane Right. Is that the new 3rd party?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:25 AM
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13. Nope, Nader is the third party and he is still nuts, lol n/t
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:32 AM
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20. That's what I've been emphasizing when I speak to right wingers about it.
I figure that if they're going to be ignorant xenophobes, we might as well use it.
At least this way they're reacting to an actual threat rather than being spooked by passing clouds.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:35 AM
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14. This ruling is another "gift" from Dubya.
Just one more piece of elephant poop, and boy is it a big one.

Barney Frank on Rachel's show cheered me up a bit, though--there are things the legislature can still do--I hope!
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:36 AM
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15. Am I living in a world where Dems received less money than Repubs in 2008???
Why would they vote against and legislate against their own interests??

What you are going to see is consolidation and narrowing of view, from both parties.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:52 AM
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19. Dems money in 2008 didn't come from corporations

Corporations had their hands tied.... until now.


Who do you think Goldman Sachs is going to spend millions on getting elected? Democrats or Republicans?


How about Exxon?


How about Walmart?



They were restricted from taking money out of their own treasuries before.... .not now.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:53 AM
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22. "Corporations had their hands tied until now?" LOL!...
...Corporations have been soaking our system with money for a long, long time. The avenues through which they've done it is all that is changing.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:40 AM
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16. But....but, according to some here, there's NO DIFFERENCE between Obama and Republicans.
Oh wait, his Supreme Court appointee came down against this decision.

Nevermind



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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:46 AM
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17. That's just friggin' delusional.The ordinary voter doesn't give a shit about Supreme Court decisions
The ordinary voter just wants to know if (s)he'll have a job and a house that isn't being foreclosed on.

Do you really think that the average low-information voter is going to suddenly wake up and notice that the mega-rich are running things and fucking them in the ass? When this has been an ongoing phenomenon for YEARS?

They do know they're being fucked, all right. They actually have been noticing that for a long time now. But they are not now, nor will they be in the forseeable future, the least bit cogniscent of WHY and HOW and by WHOM they're being fucked. They're just going to assume, as they always do, that it's the DC pols who are doing it to them, and they'll want to vote the useless bastards out.

If you think for one moment that a citizenry who doesn't even know what the three branches of the Federal government are, will now miraculously wake up and rebel against some Supreme Court decision that they most likely will have NO knowledge of, you're delusional.

The only thing the electorate cares about is, "what have you done for lately?" Telling them that you want to protect them from having their vote unduly swayed by moneyed interests is a total non-starter. They already KNOW that money runs the show, they just want to know that someone is listening to their gripes.


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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:52 AM
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21. While I'd agree the average person doesn't give a shit about Supreme Court decisions:
I think they can be made to give a shit.
If it's repeated hard enough and often enough that the reason they have no job and their house is being foreclosed on is because of mega-corps, and this SC decision grants those same corporations the ability to write (have written) whatever laws they damned well please, it would stir up quite the populist backlash against the right. It would also be useful to put Lieberman and a few of the more obstructive/corrupt Blue Dogs on the sacrificial altar. That way corporate interference can be blamed for the lack of progress on health care.

Will the Democrats actually DO that? Probably not. All this requires them to at least act as if they aren't bought and paid for themselves. And after what we saw in the health insurance reformish debacle, I'm not sure some of them are capable of it.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:52 AM
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18. You Missed It...
It was his announcement of busting up banks and reigning them in. Be assured we'll see them fight just as much as big pharma and the insurance industry did during the Health Care debate. He's sure to meet big time resistance in trying to get anything through the dysfunctional Senate. The best thing the rushpublicans can do is try to block this from moving forward...viola...major campaign issue.

Most people won't really feel any direct affect of the SCOTUS sell-out. The corporations can buy all the candidates they want, but they can't buy my vote.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:05 AM
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24. The teabaggers may very well join us
After all, the ruling applies to FOREIGN corporations as well.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:16 AM
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25. What makes you think the party is composed of "Progressives, Liberals, and leftists"?
I haven't seen any evidence of that lately. They were purged from the party by Rahm & company, remember?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:12 AM
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27. That and corporate greed and KKKons support of them
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:16 AM
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28. Who would hear us?
The corporations will throw money at this like nothing we've ever seen before. It's over.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:19 AM
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29. This ruling has Republican written all over it, with Roberts issuing the majority decision.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:44 PM
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30. Kicked and recommended!
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 02:45 PM by Betty Karlson
But please, let Obama stay focussed on the economy and the substantial changes he had vowed to bring in, or the younger voters will stay away.
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