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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:07 AM
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States
14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Section 1 of that Amendment states:

SECTION 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Show me the Birth Certificate of that Corporation

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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:16 AM
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1. The secretary of state for the state of incorporation does in fact issue them something like that.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:26 AM
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3. "Created not Born" - I wonder if the "Right to Lifers" will pick up on this
The 14th amendment clearly states "Born or Naturalized Citizens"

The argument presented by corporations is over the word "Person" in that clause. In fact they argue the framers intentionally left the word "PERSON" vague to allow interpretation to include corporations

Of the justices who had ruled that corporations were people in Santa Clare v. Southern Pacific, three were still justices and rules that natural persons of the wrong skin color were not persons in Plessy v. Ferguson. These infamous three were Stephen J. Field, Samuel Blatchford, and Horace Gray

http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/santaclara.html


It is perversion of the law to say the least
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:24 AM
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2. I would also like to know
where the responsibilities of 'personhood' are, if a companies products or services cause death is that premeditated murder or manslaughter requiring the death penalty?
No way does this ruling even make sense.

Look at the healthcare corps, they knowingly allow people to die by denial of services. Should they die (be taken over by the government would be death of the company)? Guess that means we got our government run healthcare doesn't it. Not.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:30 AM
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5. That needs to be argued to the SCOTUS
I feel the only way to undo the damage done by the SCOTUS yesterday is to argue full implementation of Corporate Personhood in EVERY facet of the Law.

That will have Trustees and Execs running for cover, begging for relief from the courts
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:27 AM
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4. LOL....
....:rofl:

Your OP is the only humor so far I have found in this corporation as a person farce.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:31 AM
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6. Now there's a birther movement I can get behind. LOL nt
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:39 AM
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7. Will these Corporations can "Desolve the Person" at any time
OOooppppssss.......
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:44 AM
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8. Sounds like the incorporation document.
Born in New Jersey, most likely.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:01 AM
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9. It is a Pervese Outdated interpetation of the 14th Amendment
Before the Supreme Court determined that corporations were persons and hence had constitutional rights female citizens had decided that the Fourteenth Amendment should be interpreted to give them the right to vote. In Minor v. Happersett the Supreme Court ruled that "women" were not persons for the purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment.

http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/santaclara.html


Should 21st Century Americans be bound and ruled by interpetations made by Radical Bigoted men in the 19th century. Numerous other decisions made by the Supreme Court during that period of time have been ruled unconstitutional and this decision should be as well

By their logic "Corporations had Rights and Women did not"
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