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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:02 AM
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The House and Senate Judiciary Committees should start impeachment hearings for 5 Justices
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 11:07 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
based on the fact that they have violated our National Security by opening the door to influence peddling by foreign nations and corporations with no restraining hand or guidelines. In addition some of them lied in their confirmation hearings when they said they respected stare decisis.

I am not a crazy person. I believe this is what they have done and I think they have taken down 234 years of a Democratic Republic in so doing.

I think it is up to the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Judiciary Committee to get some nerve up and fight for our country for once. The judgement does not stand up to scrutiny. Something has to happen quicker than a process for Constitutional amendment.


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Plus, it would make for great TV. Watching the Watergate hearings save our country was a seminal experience.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:08 AM
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1. Absolutely
Abso-fucking-lutely.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:10 AM
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2. Joe Conason sums it up in one sentence
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 11:12 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
quoting Joe Conason here-
http://www.salon.com/news/tea_parties/index.html?story= ...

For establishment Republicans like columnist George Will and Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the court's decision is simply an overdue recognition of the First Amendment right to free speech. (Or what in fact is more aptly described as "paid speech.") But to understand its actual impact, listen to Michael Waldman, executive director of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School, who drew this pithy comparison: Under the old dispensation, which prohibited direct corporate expenditures on elections for nearly a century, Exxon Mobil could spend only what its political action committee raised from executives and employees. In 2008, said Waldman, that was roughly $1 million. Under the new order, the world's biggest oil company can spend as much as its management cares to siphon from its earnings -- which in 2008 amounted to $45 billion. ...

All the ultra-wingers and tea partyers who agitate constantly over U.S. sovereignty should recall again how little loyalty the multinational corporations and banks have displayed toward the United States in their drive for profit.

Now, in effect, the Supreme Court's "conservatives" have opened up the American electoral process to a new, potentially limitless source of foreign influence.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:15 AM
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3. Calling for this is the only way President Obama can save our country.
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 11:22 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
I think even Conservatives who actually love their country and prefer it to fascism might get on board.

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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:15 AM
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4. I am uncertain if this would be effective
Though Obama could just threaten to pack the benches I suppose. It did work for Roosevelt.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:20 AM
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6. I think it would be very effective. And it is the way the system is supposed to work
I am not suggesting this to be political. I am suggesting this because these guys have done a very very bad thing. They sought this case out, they gave it the broadest scope they could, and they ignored a number of other previous decisions. I find it hard to believe that they didn't have a clear idea of the abuse of our electoral process this decision creates.

The national security angle is not something I made up - a large number of extremely credible people are raising the same point.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:39 AM
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13. Well
I wonder how likely it would be to pass this route. It is not an easy path and there are probably a number of states with very conservative legislators that might not pass it and it does require three-quarters of the state legislators to pass it and it has to go through congress with a two-thirds majority.

Still, I think this does make sense and it is essential to democracy.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:20 AM
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5. Exactly right.
But I doubt anyone will do anything about it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:23 AM
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:25 AM
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8. Many of us are both smart and loud.
And this is your typical type of response, I noticed.

If you have anything of substance to add to the topic at hand, please feel free to do so.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:31 AM
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9. Note
I had questions about the effectiveness of this route. Where as you came here and decided the most intelligent point you could make would be to just insult liberals. Calling liberals loud (and inferring they are unintelligent) doen't sound like someing an actual democrat would do.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:27 PM
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23. Oh bonus...
The person I responded to was deleted! Hooray!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:37 AM
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12. welcome to ignore
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 11:37 AM by fascisthunter
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:35 AM
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10. those S.C. neo cons can't stop smirking


and america's barons are laughing out loud
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:36 AM
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11. I don't think they will, but it's worth a try
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:40 AM
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14. Absolutely K & R. and genuine Conservatives (if there are any) should be for it too.
Anybody who is not a fascist should be for impeaching these traitors.

Two committees: one to work on impeachment and one to work on invalidating the decision.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:42 AM
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15. EMAILS will not do this you will have to CALL
and WRITE letters. That carries more weight. If you send an email ..it ..says this is an automatic response and then it goes in the catch all file, which no body reads.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:44 AM
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16. K&R.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:52 AM
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17. Dream on my friend.
They wouldn't even impeach Bush and Cheney, yet they are going to impeach those five conservative justices and then get 2/3 of the Senate to go along with it? Come on now. And remember that those senators are the same ones who will benefit from this decision. Now corporations will be able to set up dummy groups that can funnel unlimited resources to the senatorial campaigns. It's every senator's wet dream. (Except for Feingold and a very few others.)
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:30 PM
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18. I do not know all the ins and outs of impeachment,
but if there was no will to impeach * or cheney there will never be for the judges IMO.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:33 PM
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19. The people supported the impeachment - it was our own guys who were to weak to take
the challenge to do what was right at the time. This time it's even more imperative, because it's the whole system coming down on their heads as well as ours.

Since they have now have the same political life expectancy as the polar bears, they have literally nothing to lose.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:53 PM
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22. I agree it is imperative,
however, it will take 60 votes in the senate to pass any legislation to curtail the activity. No one swimming in corporate campaign money is going to pull the switch. I feel the same as you, but I don't feel there is a will in congress to do anything about it except some lip service. I will be extremely happy to be wrong.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:36 PM
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20. Doing their job, however badly, is NOT grounds for impeachment.
Congress should pass a law declaring corporations are NOT persons and are NOT guaranteed any rights of actual persons.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:45 PM
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21. Aiding or enabling foreign interests to the detriment of the country is one way to define
treason, not to put too fine a face on it. By allowing foreign interests to interfere in our election process that is what they essentially did.

I think that is impeachable.
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