Lerkfish
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Fri Jan-22-10 12:57 PM
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the only defense we have now is to pass LIMITS on campaign funds that can be amassed |
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and make the limits ridiculously low,
OR make it so no one can contribute to any one politician, but contribute to a general fund that is distributed equally.
I like the second one because it would make us have to pay attention to platform.
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:00 PM
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1. Or regulate the use of that $$ in TV ads. |
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AFAIK, Congress may still regulate the content of the public airways. A fairness doctrine is still allowed for now.
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Eric J in MN
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:00 PM
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2. The Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that spending limits are unconstitutional. |
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Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:00 PM by Eric J in MN
Though some politicians adhere to spending limits in exchange for federal matching funds.
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Jamastiene
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:01 PM
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3. Also, we can support the Buycott... |
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:04 PM
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4. Bushco seemed to do whatever they wanted, and found ways to "justify" the |
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actions. Maybe we can do something creative, too. Only in this case, the justification would be valid.
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:06 PM
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5. Barney Frank said they're going to approach it from a corporate regulation |
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stand point? Not sure what specifically, but I hope it will be soon!
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Ganja Ninja
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:07 PM
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6. How about a 100% tax on all corporate donations over and and above |
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the limits for individuals.
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Spheric
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:14 PM
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7. Campaign financing rules will not fix this... |
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Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:49 PM by Spheric
The Court determined that money spent to directly campaign for a candidate is free speech and is protected by the First Amendment. It cannot be limited in any way.
They also said, "This confirms Buckley’s reasoning that independent expenditures do not lead to, or create the appearance of, quid pro quo corruption. In fact, there is only scant evidence that independent expenditures even ingratiate. ... Ingratiation and access, in any event, are not corruption."
Corporations can now spend unlimited sums directly campaigning for their candidates without any restrictions whatsoever. So, direct contributions to the campaign don't really matter as much anymore.
I don't see any significant difference in outcome from giving the candidate the money to spend on campaigning, or in just spending the money directly themselves.
Of course to be truly effective, they will have to "coordinate" their spending with the campaign, and there isn't even any restrictions on that. The candidate can tell them where they want the money spent and the corporations can expect to "ingratiate" the candidate to their position when it comes time to legislate.
All honky-dory and above board. And now totally legal.
EDIT: To fix misspelling typo.
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 PM
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Spheric
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:27 PM
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12. It couldn't be more obvious if theyda kissed us.... |
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:15 PM
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8. $1 should be the limit. nt |
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Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 PM by anonymous171
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:24 PM
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10. That doesn't stop "Hillary the Movie" |
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:25 PM
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11. The ruling allows corporations to advertise directly. Doesn't affect campaign funds |
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The best thing to do now (while we try to fix this corporate personhood bullshit) is to make disclosure regulations very, very strict. Ads should have to say out loud "this is a paid political advertisement paid for by __________" before and after the ad and to have it printed on the screen throughout the entire ad.
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:34 PM
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13. and how will that be enforceable? |
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:43 PM
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14. FTC, FCC, Federal Elections Commission. Same as any other disclosure requirements |
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the ruling explicitly says that Congress can set disclosure requirements.
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:43 PM
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15. The Court ruled this was allowed... |
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Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:51 PM by Spheric
Only that shithead Thomas dissented on that point. He wanted them to be able to bribe the government anonymously.
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Fri Jan-22-10 01:45 PM
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16. I don't think that would pass the free speech standard. |
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