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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:18 PM
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Is Clarence Thomas the worst SC Justice in history?
Honestly, couldn't a good case be made Thomas may be the worst justice ever? What an embarrassment!

And he is 61 years old, the way things are going lately this sucker will probably be around for the next 20 years.:grr:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:19 PM
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1. He's certainly up there...
or down there, I guess...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:40 PM
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49. the chief justice (laney? taney?) during the dred scott decision was
so bad he was mocked by north and south, is the only chief justice without his bust in the courthouse, died in poverty while still on the court and is considered the worst of all time even then. I think this group ranks with them and for sheer mendacity and incompetence and hatred, thomas and scalia are the worst.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:20 PM
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2. He and Scalia are neck-in-neck
But Roberts and Alito could very well take the title before its all said and done.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:56 PM
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28. I think Scalia, Alito and Roberts actually are very knowledgeable
concerning the law. Like everyone here I disagree with their interpretation of it. As for Thomas he's an embarrassment to the SC. He may well be the least qualified person ever to sit on the bench, SC or any other court.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:00 PM
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31. Scalia's freakishly smart. Too bad he's on the wrong side. nt.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:13 PM
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40. Most sociopaths are very intelligent.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:20 PM
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3. Perhaps not the very worst of all time, but certainly a contender. n/t
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:21 PM
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4. Possibly the worst judge at any level of the judiciary.
You could pick 10 people at random off the street and probably at least 9 of them could do a better job.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:15 PM
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42. Certainly worse than the judge in Pennsylvania who was sending kids to jail for bribes
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:21 PM
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5. Yes,Yes,Yes,and yes..
and he has the damn nerve to get an attitude if you ask him about an issue as though he doesn't have to answer for it because he has a lifetime job which should be changed in someway..
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 PM
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6. He's certainly horrible.....but there have probably been Klansmen and all sorts of sociopaths.....
..... on the Court at some time.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:25 PM
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13. And Thomas is different how exactly?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:27 PM
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16. Than a Klansman? ...... Thomas might be a troglodyte, but....
I don't think he belongs to a white supremacist group, unless you're counting the Supreme Court itself as one. :evilgrin:



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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:30 PM
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18. Well,
let's just say I'm not sure Thomas actually sees a black man when he looks in the mirror.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 PM
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7. Going way, way back, you've got Roger Taney
of Dred Scott fame, or infamy.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:24 PM
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10. Yeah, I'd put him at that level. Along with the rest of the dastardly five.
Bunch of fascist pigs.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:27 PM
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15. Thomas would have voted for the majority in Dred Scot.
At some point he even signalled a willingness to reverse Brown.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:53 PM
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19. + 1
As an aside, I'll never forgive Oliver Wendell Holmes for allowing state-mandated sterilization on citizens in Buck v. Bell.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:22 PM
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8. Yes
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:23 PM
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9. it depends
If you are looking at him as a leader or a follower. The latter is more true to his standard.Besides he is a troll.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:25 PM
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12. That's an Insult to Trolls


Clarence is much more repulsive and vicious.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:24 PM
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11. Yup the good die young
The evil live for fucking ever.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:26 PM
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14. No. Supreme Court Justice Roger B. Taney.
1834-1864.

Wrote the Majority opinion in the Dred Scott case in 1857:

It is difficult at this day to realize the state of public opinion in regard to that unfortunate race which prevailed in the civilized and enlightened portions of the world at the time of the Declaration of Independence, and when the Constitution of the United States was framed and adopted; but the public history of every European nation displays it in a manner too plain to be mistaken. They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations, and so far unfit that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect.


In essence, Taney stated that African Americans are of an inferior species and have no rights under the constitution.

Yes, there is a town named after him in Maryland (where he is from). Taneytown where there are KKK activities to this day.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:28 PM
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17. Unlike Taney et al, Thomas is not only evil, he's STUPID
and thus even more unsuited for the judiciary.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:00 PM
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20. Agreed...the George W. Bush of the SCOTUS...n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:16 PM
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21. I would hesitate calling Thomas the evil one. Stupid, yes. Though
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 02:17 PM by madinmaryland
I would define him as intellectually incurious.

I would consider Roberts to be the evil one, as all of the evidence points to him being on a mission to shepard through the court all of the requests the Corporations.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:25 PM
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22. You can argue that Thomas is no more than a rubber stamp for Roberts and Scalia,
but he is clearly serving the forces of evil, and that makes him evil himself in my estimation.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:33 PM
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24. Using that definition, you are corrrect. Interestingly, the scariest
of that bunch is Scalia, who I would say is a very sharp and intelligent man. I actually saw an oral argument about a year ago, and was surprised by both the pointed and well reasoned questions he asked and the humor that he injected into the hearing. It was even more interesting to watch two attorneys (who are definite liberals) argue a case with the conservative justices as their support.

I would define as "evil" both Roberts and Scalia. Alito and Thomas are more or less rubber stamps. As for Alito, when I was him, he and Roberts seemed to be following the same script, as if they had rehearsed together.
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NightHawk63 Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:15 PM
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44. Pound for pound, I'd put this fool's evil up against ANYONE to ...
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:08 PM
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50. He's unqualified, but he is not stupid
He did very well in school, he's just not into this job.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:38 PM
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55. Perfect n/t
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:27 PM
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45. Taneytown had that name before Roger Taney was born
For what it's worth, Wikepedia says it was named after someone who shared a common ancestor.

But I do agree that Taney was probably the worst SC Chief Justice.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:33 PM
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23. There have been others who were worse in the sense of doing more harm
E.g. Roger Taney and colleagues who made the infamous Dred Scott decision. Melville Fuller and colleagues who made the 'separate but equal' decision over Plessy vs. Ferguson. Even on the current Supreme Court, Scalia probably has more power in the wrong direction.

In my own country, we had the infamous hanging-and-flogging Lord Chief Justice Goddard in the 1950s (but at least he made *one* good decision in his career: that police should not have the right to demand ID cards). And of course if you go back to the 19th century and earlier, many of our judges were savage, and did everything in their power to crush dissidents of all sorts and 'uppity' working class people in particular.

Were there any *more incompetent* than Thomas? Very likely, but I can't think of any! What possessed Daddy Bush to nominate him?!
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:38 PM
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25. He was nominated because
Bush Sr. figured that the Democrats in the Senate, who had the majority, would not block an African American nominee, no matter how repugnant his ideology.

He was right of course.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:43 PM
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26. If I recall his nomination hearing, other than the sexual harrassment thing, there
was not much to discuss because he had done virtually nothing worth mentioning in his entire career.

I believe an original thought and a drink of cold water would kill him.

mark
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:00 PM
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30. Yes - he's Scalia without the intellect. nt.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:55 PM
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48. WOW! They must have to wheel him around on a refrigerator dolly....nt
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:49 PM
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27. Not the worst, but the most INCOMPETENT
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:58 PM
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29. Put me down for "Least Qualified".
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 02:59 PM by Hosnon
I think he was only a judge for a few years in a special federal court before being selected by Bush I. He is conservative and black - it was an easy move politically.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:17 PM
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32. Yes
Without a doubt.
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ParkieDem Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:23 PM
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33. No.
Roger Taney, Melville Fuller and Tom Clark were all much worse.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:30 PM
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36. Note to self: Read up on Taney, Fuller, & Clark. Discussion was useful. /nt
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NightHawk63 Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:04 PM
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37. Honestly, If this fool was on the court with Taney...
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:17 PM by NightHawk63
...he would have voted with the majority in the Dred Scott case. I have NO doubts about that.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:24 PM
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34. I propose a sting operation
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 03:26 PM by plcdude
on Clarence surely we catch him putting pubic hair on coke cans expose him and force his retirement. Obama appoints a replacement and we go back and straighten this out. Who wants to form a team?
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:27 PM
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35. Shoulda confirmed Anita Hill for the SC instead.
Send Clarence to sex addict rehab to help him get over his dependence on porn. He's dangerously stupid, but then anyone would seem bright to G HW Bush.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:10 PM
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38. Why would he have to be THE "worst?" n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:13 PM
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39. After yesterday it is Roberts.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:15 PM
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43. In my mind, he's about as illegitimate as they come. He's the bush* butt boy....
...and certainly not the quality or caliber that should be sitting in the Chief Justice chair.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:14 PM
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41. Clarence the Perv the worst? I think he's running neck-and-neck with Fat Tony.
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:44 PM
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46. You mean Clarence who didn't hesitate to deal the race card...
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:46 PM by CoffinEd
when his confirmation was in jeopardy? High-tech lynching Clarence? Coke and a smile Clarence? That Clarence?

And to think he succeeded Thurgood Marshall on the court. Embarrassment is right!

To answer your question, on a scale of 1 to 10, Clarence is a damn -5341. And I'm in a good mood today.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:47 PM
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47. He's tied with Roger Taney.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:10 PM
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51. Opie Roberts is.
Thomas is a horrible bastard, but at least he was arguably qualified when he was appointed. Opie never was a judge at all until 2002, and even that was a a Chimpointment reward for his part in the Florida 2000 fraud.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:39 PM
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52. yes
hands down
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:36 PM
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53. The dude was almost done in with a
pubic hair. I think that sums up his character.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:37 PM
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54. He has lots of company
he should never have been appointed. That 52-48 still annoys me.
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