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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:01 PM
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"Obama cannot keep blaming Bush for these problems".
That is the new Republican mantra I have heard several times on television talk shows.

As if there is a statute of limitations on massive fuck-ups?

No matter how terrible Bush was or how awful was the mess he left, no one can blame him for anything after one year. That is a crock of bullshit!

Bush and the Republicans destroyed this country and our economy. There is no quick fix. This is not an ordinary recession. This was a total destruction of our regulations and rules of economy.

It is unrealistic to believe that we will recover in the same way we have in previous downturns. Those that think so are living in a dreamworld. The banks took all your money and you're not getting it back. Sorry.

How long will it take to recover? Nobody knows. But we do know that we cannot return to the economy we had for the last eight years. It is decimated. It is gone.

No, it is not possible to fix it in one year. Maybe not in ten years? So I will continue to blame those responsible until we can see some daylight at the end of the tunnel. I will not stop blaming Bush and the Republicans until that happens.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:02 PM
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1. If the shoe fits...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:04 PM
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2. Republicans have so much nerve
I'll give them that.

They talk about personal responsibility and yet take none.

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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:05 PM
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3. The hypocrisy. It's almost as bad as 'teh stupid'.
They blamed Clinton for things in 2008. What a bunch of two-faced, snotty little assholes.
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:05 PM
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4. wait
So it's a double standard? Shocking.

Am i crazy or do i recall the Bush Administration and all the right wing talking heads blaming Clinton till the very end?
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:07 PM
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5. Obama should have come out stronger from the get go....
"Bipartisanship" with these repuke a-holes is a non-starter.

Hind-sight is 20-20, they say.

(it bothers me still though that Gibbs was smiing ear-to-ear the other day).
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NoFace Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:10 PM
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9. Yeah, Gibbs is starting to get on my nerves as well what with all the...
...'aw-shucks' palling around with the press corps and slimy double-speak when it comes to anything relevant.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:20 PM
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17. Yep. Welcome to DU!
It's nice to speak freely/associate while we still can.....

:hi:
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:07 PM
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6. Oh, yeah?
"Obama cannot keep blaming Bush for these problems."


Wanna bet?
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:08 PM
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7. It's a losing play
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:42 PM
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26. It's the truth.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:45 PM
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28. So you think he can continue to blame Bush?
Because Bush is still to blame for our present difficulties?
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:07 PM
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29. Yes, Bush is still to blame.
Darned tootin'.

Nobody can undo 8 years of screw-ups and malfeasance in a single year (maybe not in a single term, but I'm hopin').

People are screaming for progress, but we have to climb out the hole Bush left us in before we can start building.

Whether it's politically feasible to "blame Bush," Bush is to blame, nevertheless. People should realize it, and if it takes saying it again and again, then it needs to be said again and again.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:09 PM
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8. Would they argue if he blamed Clinton? n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:11 PM
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10. That's why the "I want my country back!" folks are so pathetic...
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:13 PM by KansDem
Trillions of dollars added to the national debt?
Endless wars based on lies?
Double-digit unemployment?
Economic malfeasance rewarded with bailouts and bonuses?
Natural disasters ignored?
Millions of jobs moved offshore?
Illegal spying on Americans?
Millions of Americans without healthcare?
Record foreclosures?

...and this is what they want back? Un-fucking-believable!
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:12 PM
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11. When you control the media, you control the propaganda.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:12 PM
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12. "as if there is a statute of limitations on massive fuck ups"
Good one!LOL!! Indeed!!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:13 PM
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13. Just returned from his town hall didn't hear bu$h's name once
He said things were real bad last year when he took office then went on to say he wanted to fix them.
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vincna Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:17 PM
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14. What the Republicans say isn't important
What the Independents believe is crucial. Whether we like it or not, at some point Independents will see him as weak and ineffective if he keeps blaming Bush for the current problems. If that happens, Obama is toast. Sorry, but whether it's fair or not, it's political reality.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:19 PM
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16. But can we make sure they hear the other side?
I heard Mika the other morning say that Obama cannot "continue blaming Bush" and no one responded at all.
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vincna Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:51 PM
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24. I think it is up to Obama to project leadership and strength
You do that by taking ownership of the situation. I do not believe it would be productive to keep pointing out Bush's failures, whether Obama does it personally or his base does it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:06 PM
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25. Yes. We can take ownership...
But we have to be honest with the people. We inherited a mess that cannot be cleaned up in a year or two. Obama actually acts as if this were just a "normal" recession. As when he said unemployment would not go above 8%. He obviously underestimated the mess he was given. This has been my major criticism of the President. We are in a pickle. It does no good to pretend otherwise. We need honesty as well as optimism.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:17 PM
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15. Then who *SHOULD* we blame these colassal fuck-ups on?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:21 PM
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18. It's a three-part question?
Who can we blame for the massive fuck-ups?

and

Who can we blame for not fixing it?

and

How long should it take?
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:23 PM
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19. "The buck stops here" is what people want to hear.
Not passing the buck to a guy sipping lemonade on a ranch in Texas.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:25 PM
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20. The buck stops here...
but it is going to take more than a year to clean up this mess.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:20 AM
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33. Nope. FDR and Reagan proved otherwise. n/t
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:29 PM
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21. "Yes we can"
And we should.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:38 PM
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22. Indeed. Nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:41 PM
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23. Bush blamed Clinton for HIS problems
And the press called it moral courage!


rocktivity
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:43 PM
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27. Yeah, how many times did we hear "Clinton recession / Bush boom"
which was a gigantic crock of B.S.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:08 PM
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30. Indeed.
I know we were much better off here during Clinton's term.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:36 PM
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31. He should make sure Cheney gets some of the blame too.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:19 AM
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32. The problem is that Obama is NOT blaming Bush for the economy
He'd better learn from FDR and Reagan and start to do it pronto. That is how both got re-elected despite skyrocketing unemployment in their first terms.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:36 AM
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34. The GOOP Still Blames Carter 30 Years Later...
In rushpublican land, nothing can get the church busses filled and the teabaggers in a tizzy than the mention of Jimmy Carter. boooosh did far more damage than any other president and the effects will be with us the rest of our lives.

You are right that using booosh as the sole excuse for problems will lose its effectiveness, but among Democrats, that name will be a constant reminder of how screwed up this country is and which party was responsible.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:41 AM
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35. I have this really bad feeling that many politicians, many Dems
are not in power for their ideals or constituency, but are biding their time in office now, merely to pad their bank accounts for a little while and secure great positions in corporate entities. I doubt they care if they win or lose, its all about securing monies.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:14 AM
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36. Those people are still blaming Clinton
9/11 was Clinton's fault. Economic problems were Clintons fault. You can't let them write the rules of the debate
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