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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:33 PM
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So, President Obama is "ready for a fight" with the banks. Fire in his belly!
Good.

Wish he had gotten a fire in his belly to actually FIGHT for a real HCR bill instead of giving away the farm to Joe Lieberman.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:34 PM
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1. That remains to be seen
So far all I've seen is rhetoric.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:42 PM
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10. We've seen that he speaks well.
We haven't seen whether or not he can follow up on any of that talk with effective action on any issue yet. :(

At the end of his first year in office, with a majority in both houses, a huge public mandate, and attacking issues that have massive public support it would have been nice to see some big big pushes forward by now. Instead of these tepid, timid bits of policy with far more compromise and back-step than progress.

But maybe this will be the issue where he surprises us and finally steps up.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:55 PM
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12. It's like he starts out great and then it all falls apart quickly
It starts out with a lot of fire and a pretty good outline on what he will do.

Then it turns into "bipartisanship" and allowing the Republicans to steer and dominate the agenda, leaving us with nothing or a bigger mess to deal with.

I'm not holding my breath, but I really hope he follows through on this one. I'd like to think he will, since the midterms and 2012 aren't looking too good for us right now.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:34 PM
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2. Sure, but it's a step in the right direction. Hopefully.
Maybe they got the message?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:41 PM
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3. "The proof is in the pudding"
I hope he means it but I'll believe it when I see it and not before.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:54 PM
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4. NOW he decides to "go Populist"!
When the stock market dips under 10,000, he will go back to being Corporatist again!
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:05 PM
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5. More walk, less talk. Let's see it.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:31 PM
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6. I don't think it's going to happen.
He will cave to the bankers.
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Dream Girl Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:40 PM
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7. I think he gave them a year...
A year to give WS what they wanted to stablize the markets, now that there is a track record I hope he can push forward a more populist agends. Understand, he couldn't come in with guns blazing. He gave them enough rope.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:58 PM
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8. We Can Only Hope
:sarcasm:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:29 PM
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9. CHANGE !!!!
....and THIS time, I really mean it!!!
Honest!!!
You can take it to the Bank!
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OOPS.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:53 PM
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11. More Kabuki theater.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:58 PM
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13. Just to add some facts to the conspicuous line up of the usual suspects and their digs.....
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 09:59 PM by FrenchieCat
But after becoming President, he needed to set Wall Street back on some sound footing, for the sake of 401Ks and the general economy.
Then he asked for them to give back,
and realized at some point that they weren't gonna sacrifice
anytime soon....
So I guess, he lowered the Boom!

Volker was welcomed back in December.....
However the Bank proposal may have been postponed due to Haiti.

The interesting part of this story is that Obama and Volcker went to work on this in December (about the same time as Volcker came off the reservation and started making more frequent speeches).


It'll hurt if Volcker has his way
The former Fed chief's tough tactics curbed an '80s downturn. He has a similar prescription as an Obama advisor.
December 08, 2008


Now Volcker is back, tapped by Barack Obama as a special economic advisor. And if the president-elect follows his advice on the current economic crisis, there could be pain again and no doubt many protests -- but also the possibility of long-term benefits.

In speeches, interviews, public policy reports and congressional testimony, Volcker, 81, has laid out a fairly clear outline of what he thinks is wrong with the present-day financial system and the government's management of the economy.
snip
Clearly, he wants tough new regulations on securities markets, including oversight of hedge funds, in order to avoid the need for a bailout effort by the Fed ever again. It seems likely that he will advise Obama that the growth of U.S. consumption -- everything from government spending to household outlays -- should not be financed by selling ever larger amounts of debt to foreign interests.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/08/nation/na-volcker8



I think he put the bankers on notice, and they ended up not doing as asked....

Obama to banks: 'Rebuild our economy'

By Jennifer Liberto, CNNMoney.com senior writer
December 16, 2009:
President Obama pressed Wall Street bankers at the White House on Monday, urging them to make more loans and modify mortgages to help taxpayers who propped their banks up with federal bailouts.

"My main message in today's meeting was very simple: America's banks received extraordinary assistance from American taxpayers to rebuild their industry," Obama said. "Now that they're back on their feet, we expect an extraordinary commitment from them to help rebuild our economy."

In his public statement after the meeting, Obama said he also took bankers to task for lobbying "vigorously" against parts of the financial legislation to reshape the regulatory system and prevent future financial crises.

"Short-term gains are of little value to our banks if they lead to long-term chaos in the economy," he said. "I made very clear that I have no intention of letting their lobbyists thwart reforms necessary to protect the American people."

The bank executive who attended the meeting said the president asked bankers to support financial regulatory reform, and everyone in the room appeared to agree with him.
We share the President's goals of strengthening lending to all sectors of the economy, helping homeowners avoid foreclosure, aligning compensations practices with long-term risk horizons, and modernizing the regulatory framework," said group president Steve Bartlett.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/14/news/economy/Obama_bankers/index.htm



December 17, 2009
Now that Paul Volcker has picked up his hammer, he will not lightly set it aside. He knows how to sway the policy community and he knows how to escalate when they don’t pay attention. Expect him to pound away until he prevails.
http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/



So Obama turned to Volker to get her done.
As I understand it, the bankers were kept in the dark about these new proposals. The story started to leak this Tuesday afternoon and when the bankers started calling the WH yesterday for an explanation, they did not get a warm reception.

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:01 PM
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14. Memo to Michelle, SS, White House staff...
Do NOT buy any Pepcid AC, Zantac, Tums or any antacid of any kind until he's done. The belly fire muxt burn!

Kitchen staff: Pizza, tamales, Chili dogs, and cajun chicken for the President stat!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:19 PM
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15. We'll see what happens
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:48 PM
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16. I wish he would whip that Supreme Court in gear, Bush and Cheney
have their trolls in the SC, and they are out for the kill.
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:52 PM
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17. In WAY over his head, or this is the most stunning (and costly) policy reversal ever. n/t
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:09 PM
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18. So does that mean that Baucus and Lieberman will be his point men again? nt
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