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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:43 PM
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Give Corporations FULL Natural Citizen Rights
This may sound crazy, but sometimes it is best to fight a fire with fire, taking away the fuel from the original blaze, give Corporations full American Natural Human rights and responsibilities.

Equalize American Natural Human citizens and Corporations with the same age timelines, rights, responsibilities, give to them what we as natural humans already have in the United States of America.

It is important to note – I am suggesting that Corporations are exactly the same as Natural Citizens of the U.S.. These rights are for American born (United States) corporations only. Foreign corporations must obtain the proper visa and if not of legal age (18 yrs.), must be accompanied by their parent or guardian. They then will have the same responsibilities as a U.S. born corporation.

I have outlined at brief timeline of the “Corporate Life”. This , by no means, is complete or all encompassing of the corporations life. Laws and regulations will be regional.

Before the birth of a corporation, a gender must be assigned, male or female. The parents of the new baby corporation assign the gender. Additionally, after the conceptualization of the yet unborn corporation no hindrance of birth to the baby corporation may incur, it must be born. This aspect was added to appease the anti-abortionists. Sorry, but some concessions will have to be made.
The first 1 through 7 years of the new baby corporation are the “Developmental years”. At any time during these years the parent(s) may start the education process. Education is mandatory through the 16th year of the corporations life. The education may be obtained through either Public or Private schools. Although the corporation may decide to quit its education at the age of 16, it should be highly recommended to the corporation that it continue its education at very least to the age of 18 to really be taken seriously in any business environment.

Ages 8 – 16, the “Educational years”. Same as outlined above. In the 15th year, the corporation may start drivers training. In the 16th year it may get its drivers license upon completion and passing of the standard state test in which the corporation resides. They are not allowed to own an automobile, or for that matter any kind of conveyance but may, with permission, borrow their parents vehicle. This licensing would apply to all means of conveyance, planes, boats, trucks, etc.

Age 18 is a monumental year for the corporation, for the first time in its existence it will be allowed to enter into legally binding contracts. Finally, it can start paying its employees with profits from the contracts it can now make with other legally aged corporations. Age 18 also removes the legal ramifications of its behavior from the parents of the corporation. Legally it is on its own. The corporation must register its draft status with the government if that is the current law.

Age 21 is the next milestone year. The corporation will now be regarded as an adult corporation, with all rights and responsibilities that are given to adult Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America. The corporation can now throw an office party with alcoholic drinks. Mandatory jury duty would be a responsibility of the corporation at this age, proxies for jury duty are not acceptable, the corporation must be present.

Marriages between corporations can now take place. Only male/female unions will be recognized. Sorry, another concession. Of course, if they want to fight for the right for same gender unions, that is permitted. If same gender unions are recognized for corporations it will be recognized for all citizens. Buying and selling of corporations would be illegal, it would be slavery or trafficking of persons.

And, of course, the corporation would only live for the life expectancy of its gender, based on the actuary tables based for the United States, currently 75.6 for males and 80.8 for females.

I could go on and on but I think you get the idea and have come up with a few of your own. Equalizing may be a good thing, but it has to be ALL OR NOTHING. Equalizing corporations and natural born citizens would put us on the same level. Corporate power would be diminished with more of the rights of naturals. No more picking and choosing your rights, you have them all. But you also have the responsibilities we as naturals have.

If this is enacted, in my opinion, corporations would fight like hell NOT to have the change. The thought of not being able to enter into contracts until 18 yrs old would make a corporation useless, everything a corporation does is a contract.

Giving the corporations all rights and responsibilities we enjoy would tie up the courts for ages. All the money that they would have set aside for buying politicians would be used up in legal battles.
You can’t say that because you’re a “collection of people” therefore we are a person then get to pick the rights that benefit you most. If you are a person in the United States of America, then you must accept them all, we as naturals have that responsibility.

It would take just one instance for a corporation to say, “I can’t do that, I’m not a real person.”. We would then have the proverbial foot in the door to change back the SCOTUS decision.

ALL OR NOTHING.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:49 PM
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1. Would that make them subject to commitment hearings
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 12:49 PM by havocmom
if they were a threat to themselves (banks, mortgage companies, auto makers who don't make wise decisions) or others (do they pollute, or threaten national economic stability)?

edited for typo
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:51 PM
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2. Tax them as we are taxed. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:42 PM
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8. We should have had just one tax proposition last night in Oregon!
And had it tax corporations the same way with the same tax rates we tax people!
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:55 PM
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3. Hmm
Does this mean we can execute corporations that sell arms and equipment to our enemies or that trade with them? Can we imprison Bank of America or any other Bank if they deal with Saudi's that are funding terrorism or if they aid in the transfer of funds to terrorist operations?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:57 PM
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9. Indefinite detainment and rendition sound appealing for the first time.
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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:00 PM
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4. Oh the fun we could have with this
Think of Corporation A. It lays off some workers, one worker kills himself because of that layoff.
Can Corporation A can now have criminal charges levied against it for at least manslaughter?
Negligent homicide? Bartenders can be responsible for the drinks they serve to much too drunk patrons.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:02 PM
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5. I agree ...
if they agree to become FULL U.S. CITIZENS ... break all their ties with other countries ... remove all their manufacturing and call centers from other countries. Get all their materials from within the U.S. ...
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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:07 PM
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6. Absolutely... ALL OR NOTHING nt.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:30 PM
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7. I like it!
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