berni_mccoy
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:05 PM
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O'Keefe and friends could face Decades in Prison (charges could include Espionage) |
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Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 03:11 PM by berni_mccoy
First, I'm not a lawyer, but have some as friends and family members. Keep in mind, with some of these charges, that Sen. Landrieu works on at least two committees that require clearance for classified information, her work on the Homeland Security precludes defense information. By tapping her phone, there was a possibility they would intercept, and thereby release classified into to unauthorized persons (themselves at least). Here are some of the charges that could apply in this case, along with their prison terms:
1. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 19 - Sec. 371 - Conspiracy. - 5 years 2. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 119 - Sec. 2511 - Wiretapping. 5 years 3. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 37 - Sec. 793 - Espionage - Transmitting defense information - 10 years 4. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 37 - Sec. 798 - Espionage - Disclosure of Classified information - 10 years 5. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 47 - Sec. 1001 - Fraud (they posed as building/telecom workers) - 5 years 6. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 47 - Sec. 1029 - Fraud related to access devices - 5 years and is cause to bring in Secret Service to investigate and raise to the Attorney General 7. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 47 - Sec. 1031 - Fraud against the U.S. - 10 years and $10,000,000 fine. 8. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 47 - Sec. 1036 - Entry by False pretenses to property of the U.S. - 10 years 9. U.S.C. Title 18 - Part I - Ch. 47 - Sec. 1037 - Fraud in connection with email - 5 years
I'm counting upwards of 65 years.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:06 PM
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1. Waterboard them to find out who they worked for! |
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:15 PM
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8. Screw that. Disappear them to a black site somewhere. |
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Let their families wonder what happened to them for a half-decade or so. That'll learn the little enemy combatants!
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:52 PM
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12. No. Follow the money. |
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The money leads to bigger fish. I would bet on it.
Satisfaction with these low-level dopes is trivial.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:08 PM
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but Scooter Libby and Cheney walk free. |
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Yeah, we'll throw the book at those morons. Because we sat on it when we should have thrown it at REAL traitors.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:08 PM
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2. keep in mind they are republicans... |
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but let's hope they get flushed anyway
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:09 PM
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:10 PM
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4. Freepers and disruptors in a state of pure panic over this one |
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And they can't claim 'Democrats did it too'. Nope, not this time.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:10 PM
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5. Hopefully some of that will be plea bargained away in exchange ... |
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:18 PM
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9. Hopefully, but then they'd have to make the decision as to |
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whether keeping your mouth shut and spending 50 years in jail, or talking and maybe not living long enough to worry about it would be in their best intersts. All depends on who was funding them and whether this was their own idea hoping for more accolades from their heroes, like Karl Rove.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:11 PM
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6. Never happen! I bet they get off with a warning |
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:13 PM
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... they'll get charged with entering a federal building with intent to commit a crime. They'll plead out, receive probation, and wear it as a badge when they are on the RW speaking circuit.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:20 PM
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10. I independently came up with the same list - you missed giving classified info to a foreign gov't. |
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:28 PM
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11. GMTA! How do you get giving to a foreign gov't...? |
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I missed that part of the story.
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:55 PM
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13. We don't know what he was going to do with the information now do we? |
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He theoretically could be giving it to a foreign government - at the very least he ought to be investigated for the possibility...
:rofl:
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Wed Jan-27-10 03:58 PM
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14. All of that will be ignored . . . and this will become "prank" --- |
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Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 03:59 PM by defendandprotect
Meanwhile, I'm wondering if the DAD -- Flanagan -- was actually involved and
maybe rounded up this crew for a job?
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Wed Jan-27-10 04:26 PM
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15. call me optimistic if you must, but I don't think this will be written off as a *prank*. |
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Wed Jan-27-10 04:48 PM
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16. While I believe they should go to prison I don't believe any of them will |
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I believe they will cop a plea and there won't even be a trial. They will be given suspended sentences on any time given and a somewhat large fine that will be paid by their Republican benfactors. It will all be blown over in a few weeks. But I could be wrong :shrug:
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Wed Jan-27-10 07:16 PM
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17. If the plea they'll likely serve some time, *unless* |
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they give up a bigger fish, which, I won't be upset if they do and that bigger fish gets sent to prison for a very long time.
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Wed Jan-27-10 07:19 PM
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18. it Will Be Interesting to See Who Comes to Their Rescue |
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these folks are connected...
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Wed Jan-27-10 07:23 PM
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19. Probably a way to throw terrrism charges at them too. |
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Given the right prosecutors...
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Wed Jan-27-10 07:26 PM
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Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 07:27 PM by Kazak
Daaang.
Edit: Wouldn't they serve all those charges concurrently?
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Thu Jan-28-10 10:58 AM
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21. Not sure how concurrency works on some of these charges. |
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