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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:02 PM
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This Thing Spirals, too -- like the Norwegian UFO.
From Harbour Mille, Newfoundland comes a fascinating report.
Several people reported seeing something streak across the sky.
Some said it came out of the bay. One took a photo. Here's the BBC story:

DND, RCMP mum on UFO mystery



CBC - Residents of Harbour Mille, N.L., reported seeing this object fly over their community Monday night. (Courtesy of Darlene Stewart)



Here's a close up of the above. I magnified it 3X from the original with Photoshop and zapped it with sharpen.

What's immediately noticeable is the spiral structure of the trail.

It reminded me off the famous Norway Spiral UFO we talked about on DU in December.



Please know I'm not suggesting anything other than: Here's another case of a spiral associated with a UFO report.

Who knows what it is? I can't venture more than a guess based on what I know.

Any guesses? Any ideas? What are your thoughts?

PS: What I don't know, it's almost funny.

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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:04 PM
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1. Maybe
Something with a pulse-jet.......
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:24 PM
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11. One vet I know said that's how the Aurora is supposed to work...
http://www.fighter-planes.com/info/aurora.htm

Another vet I know told me Aurora is simply a psyop meant to confuse the commie.

I'm not on the fence, I tilt toward the latter.

Still, there are tons of things we don't know about that are in the Pentagon's black budget that we should know. As a Democrat and a democrat, I believe that shouldn't be the case in the United States. We the People should know whatever it is we spend money on. Without openness, transparency and freedom of information, our servants may use their power to do things most un-Constitutional.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:04 PM
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2. Hmmm...currently reading Daniel Pinchbeck's 2012: Return of Quetzalcoatl
... much questioning and hypothesizing over such data. Thanks for posting...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:28 PM
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13. Sounds interesting...
http://www.dailygrail.com/node/2977



Cool cover.

PS: You're most welcome, Echo In Light.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:51 PM
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20. A good read thus far
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:04 PM
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3. KR
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:47 PM
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15. Mystery N.L. object has tongues wagging
It's not like they're kooks. They're regular folks, familiar with sunsets and birds and sub-launched ICBMs.



Mystery N.L. object has tongues wagging

By Ken Meaney, Canwest News ServiceJanuary 27, 2010 5:30 PM

A mystery object shaped like an "oversized bullet" that flew over their tiny community this week has people in Harbour Mille, N.L., wondering if they saw a missile launch.

"First thing I thought was: 'My God, it had to be a missile of some sort,' because it looked like an oversized bullet," said Emmy Pardy, who watched it through binoculars for five to eight minutes as it passed silently overhead at sunset Monday.

"It was grey-silver in colour (and) it seemed like it had a bit of flame coming through the bottom of it and it had a trail of smoke, or what appeared to be smoke," Pardy said.

"We knew it wasn't a plane and it definitely wasn't any kind of UFO thing," she said, laughing.

A grainy photo shot by another witness, Darlene Stewart, shows an object, trailing what appears to be orange flame, moving at a 45-degree angle to the left against a greyish coloured sky.

CONTINUED...

http://www.canada.com/news/national/Mystery+object+tongues+wagging/2491509/story.html



Thank you, Me., my Friend!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:05 PM
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4. the bottom one is a wayward missile.
Early efforts by Robert Goddard had some mishaps like that, but far smaller, and rarely so well photographed.

The top one looks like a Russian, Chinese or US sub launch.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:18 AM
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18. You may be right. Some in the Russian press said that in December...
DUer Slutticus found these articles.

My question then was: "How can people in Norway report something that happened in the White Sea, three countries over?"
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:05 PM
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5. I see fractal randomness in the tail, but no "spiral"
That thing looks like an old fashioned V-2.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:12 PM
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7. Imagine a ''Slinky'' uncoiling, aft of the V-2
It's hard to see the spiral until you imagine the V-2 spinning and moving forward.
What may be leaking something from the surface as a nearly invisible film may become noticeable at the edges,
like seeing through a nebula after a nova.



When seen head-on, we can see through the gas cloud.

The edges, as in the magnfied photo, reveal a structure.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:09 PM
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6. Submarine Launched Missle Test ???
:shrug:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:22 AM
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19. That's the most credible explanation.
The thing is, that doesn't make sense upon examining the facts.

Why would they -- in the most recent case, the French -- test a sea-launched missile from a couple miles away from a populated area -- the Canadian province of Newfoundland?

The world's mostly ocean, meaning they could find privacy, maintain secrecy and protect the public.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:17 PM
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8. We're doomed.
and I'm not just saying that in anticipation of the SOTU.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:27 AM
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22. You and Vallee may be correct.
Jacques Vallee says he would be dissapointed if they were "just" visitors from another star system.
Simple space travelers does not fit what's been reported by eyewitnesses, radar records, photographs and the historical record.
What people have seen and recorded seem to indicate an intelligence that can manipulate matter, space and time in ways we do not understand.
Dr. Vallee theorized they may be interdimensional travelers or something we can't even put into words.



Rex Heflin, Santa Ana California, 1965

A scary thought: Vallee also says we may get the Visitors we deserve.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:19 PM
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9. I read somewhere that it may have been a northern light breaking into fractals
Apologies to those who actually know what they're talking about
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:36 AM
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23. Interesting connection, that.
Reports about these strange objects reveal a performance envolope that seems to combine energy and mass in new ways.
Here's a panorama based on a series of photographs taken by the expedition photographer
of a Brazilian Navy research ship Almirante Saldhana in January 1958, the International Geophysical Year:



Trindade Island, Brazil



Close up from the frame on the left.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:22 PM
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10. If it was a sub launch, it seems awfully close to shore for it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:52 AM
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24. Royal Canadian Navy probably agrees. Prime Minister Office says, 'No Evidence of Rocket' though...
Launching rockets for test or show near populated areas is not SOP.



No evidence UFO was rocket: PMO

Last Updated: Thursday, January 28, 2010 | 9:49 PM NT The Canadian Press

The Prime Minister Office says there is no evidence of anyone firing a rocket near Newfoundland's southern coast, despite reports of a flaming unidentified object shooting through the sky in Harbour Mille on Monday.

SNIP...

Gerry Byrne, the MP for Humber-St. Barbe-Baie Verte, said Thursday he had received no further information on the missile-like objects seen earlier this week.

"The objective here should be to dispel rumours and conspiracy theories," he said from Corner Brook, N.L.

"It's not making any sense and nobody's providing any real answers, so questions are mounting."

SNIP...

Byrne said he's concerned for the safety of residents if missile tests are being done and no one is being told about them.

SOURCE:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/01/28/ufo-newfoundland-pmo.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0:a16:g2:r3:c0.103778:b30086478#ixzz0e16f3BJQ



I'm with you and Byrne, Arctic Dave. There's no reason for sea-launched missiles to be tested a couple miles from anybody's house.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:25 PM
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12. It's that 60th Congressional seat, leaving our atmosphere!
:)
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:35 PM
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14. Whatever it is, looks like it is smart enough to get the heck out of here.
I find this sort of thing fascinating. Bet the military and various world governments know a lot more about these events than they are telling us.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 06:00 PM
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16. I'd say it's turbulence
Looks a bit like vortex shedding.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 07:59 PM
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17. Swamp Gas?
or too many helpings of Poutine?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:09 PM
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25. That's just exactly what they want you to believe.


From Firesign Theatre:

The General's Comments on How To Deal With Alien Contact

(FST Commentator): "Here's the official, stolen, government training film of the secret plan to deal with an alien uprising."

(Martial music swells in the background)

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(The General): "This is General Curtis Goatheart. If you are viewing this film, then we are under extraterrestrial attack. Beware- your brain may no longer be the boss! If you are beginning to doubt what I am saying, you are probably hallucinating. Listen carefully!"

(One second burst of ringing alarm bell)

(NCOIC): "What to do if an alien appears! ONE!"

(The General): "Drop beneath the seat of your plane and look away."

(NCOIC): "TWO!"

(The General): "Avoid eye contact."

(NCOIC): "THREE!"

(The General): "If there are no eyes, avoid all contact."

(One second burst of ringing alarm bell)

(NCOIC): "How to identify alleged sightings! ONE!"

(The General): "Pie plates, or as reflections in the atmosphere."

(NCOIC): "TWO!"

(The General): "Dry cleaning bags filled with marsh gas, or..."

(NCOIC) "THREE!"

(The General): "Mass insanity!"

(One second burst of ringing alarm bell)

(NCOIC): "How to inform your wife, and others under your command!"

(Bugle blowing reville in the background, faint drumbeat, soft clatter of dinnerware)

(General's Wife): "...Can I freshen that up for you?..."

(The Colonel): "I don't know how she got that requisition..."

(General's Wife): "Oh, she gets it in the back..."

(The Colonel): "Well, she's not allowed to have them unless she's..."

(Another Officer): "Unless she's related to the (undecipherable) of the PX..."

(Sound of a spoon repeatedly striking a water glass)

(The General): "Honey and men- I have something awesome to reveal to you."

(The Colonel): "Well, go ahead, sir."

(General's Wife): "Go ahead."

(The General): "Two flying saucers have just landed on my plate."

(Long moment of silence)

(The Colonel): "Well, turn away sir- I'll eat them."

(Nervous laughter)

(Sound of a spoon repeatedly striking a water glass)

(The General): "Men- our greatest fear is realized- we are under attack from superior consciousness."

(The Colonel): "The eggs, sir?"

(The General): "They're only the beginning."

(More nervous laughter)

(Another Officer): "Can I have some more of those flapjacks?"

(The General): "All right, men - questions? Questions?"

(The Major): "Ah, sir?"

(The General): "Yes, Major?"

(The Major): "Ah, pass the ah, syrup, General?"

(The General): "That's a good idea, Chuck, but syrup won't stop 'em!"

(Another Officer): "But, sir..."

(The Colonel): "Ah, sir?"

(The General): "Colonel?"

(The Colonel): "Are you nuts?"

(The General): "H-Hmmm! That is just exactly what they want you to believe! (chuckle)"

(The Colonel): "The eggs, sir?"

(The General): "Let's just call them 'the phenomena' "

(The Colonel): "Well, if I may respectfully submit, sir, I think you've got your phenomena
scrambled, General."

(More nervous laughter)

(General's Wife): "What about my eggs, dear?"

(The General): "Honey- they're in- everybody's eggs!"

(The Colonel, slightly sarcastically): "Good lord!"

(Faint drumbeat, soft clatter of dinnerware in the background)

(The General's wife begins sobbing hysterically, but softly)

(Another Officer): "I think I'm going to have to leave this table..."

(The Major): "...another cup of coffee, sir- settle you down a bit..."

(NCOIC): "CONCLUSION!"

(The General): "They think he is insane. Yet he outranks them. His option- command!"

(NCOIC): "ONE!"

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(NCOIC): "TWO!"

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(NCOIC): "THREE!"

(The General): "Obtains expert scientific susistence (sic)."

(NCOIC): "FOUR!"

(The General): "Evacuates all government employees, and..."

(NCOIC): "FIVE!"

(The General): "...bombs aliens back to stone age!"

(Martial music swells up in the background)

(NCOIC): "END OF FILM!"

From "Everything You Know is Wrong" by The Firesign Theatre (1974)
Avant garde humor since the late sixties,
with something to amuse and offend everyone.
Background music from "Being There" (1979)
In memory of Peter Sellers, who helped us all laugh at a time when we really needed to.


SOURCE (with infinite thanks from Octafish): http://www.angelfire.com/md/k3ky/page23.html
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:26 PM
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26. Not to repeat myself, but.......
The food on this planet really sucks.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:54 PM
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21. Venus. Weather Balloons. Pizza.
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