Lorien
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Wed Jan-27-10 05:49 PM
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A perfect illustration of WHY our jobs keep heading overseas |
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A friend of mine is the creator of a huge success in the publishing world. Last year a major film studio optioned the rights for his creation to turn it into a film. The film required a huge number of artists, so the US studio turned to....Australia. Why? Not because the talent is cheaper in Australia, but because the Australian government offered them $40 MILLION dollars to bring the project there. The film will probably cost around $120 mil, so the Aussies see it as a good investment. They even demanded that an Australian director be used, despite the fact that my friend had found an American Academy award winning director with a recent blockbuster who would have signed on to the project.
Tax cuts are chicken feed when put up against government INVESTMENTS in job creation. No wonder their unemployment rate is only 5.5%!
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Wed Jan-27-10 05:54 PM
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1. That's just good old fashioned |
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Corporate welfare. Subsidizing something as inherently transient as one particular movie is not a long-term solution.
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Lorien
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Wed Jan-27-10 05:59 PM
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2. The Australian film board subsidizes HUNDREDS of films every year |
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which is why their film industry is growing, while ours has dropped off 30% in the past decade.
But you are missing the bigger picture: Governments who INVEST in jobs instead of rely on tax cuts have lower unemployment rates. It ain't rocket science!
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:03 PM
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5. Austrailia *also* has lower corporate taxes. |
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So the example doesn't really demonstrate that either.
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:06 PM
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8. Got a link for that? They *also* have socialized health care |
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so it makes doing business in Australia cheaper.
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:06 PM
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:08 PM
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11. A link that doesn't work. nt |
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:11 PM
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I saw a great one here while visiting Melbourne--Bran Nue Dae |
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quirky funny and awesome
I lerve Oz. Wish i could stay here all the time!
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:38 PM
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13. It's likely not a good long term investment strategy, however. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 06:39 PM by girl gone mad
The film industry faces many obstacles to future growth. It isn't the business it was even 10 years ago. With post-production now so easy to outsource, no project is tied to any location. The film industry jobs aren't there anymore, and it has nothing to do with lack of government investment. Things that used to require a large studio staffed with a dozen people can now be done on a computer by one person. While ticket price inflation has kept revenues steady, the number of people who go to movies and buy dvd's continues to shrink. There is much more competition for the entertainment dollar and that the competition will only grow more intense.
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Wed Jan-27-10 05:59 PM
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:05 PM
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6. Pretty standard for a film with a lot of artists on board. But films usually generate |
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hundreds of millions in revenue globally between box office and DVD sales. That $120mil is money paid to WORKERS for JOBS.It ain't exactly one bankster's bonus check for failing a bank!
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:07 PM
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10. Common but not standard. |
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:11 PM
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12. Actually, it is pretty standard. But the OP is about how government chooses to invest |
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or not invest in JOBS. Was that unclear? Do you want to continue on this silly debate over how much a movie costs or talk about what we should be asking of our reps to improve the unemployment situation in America?
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Thu Jan-28-10 01:43 PM
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20. Yes, it was loud and clear to me. |
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And thank you for the OP, Lorien. I understand what you are getting at, and couldn't agree with you more!
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:02 PM
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4. And now half the cast of Spiderman IV will be killed by poisonous spiders and snakes. n/t |
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Wed Jan-27-10 06:05 PM
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7. corporate welfare racing to the bottom.. |
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Wed Jan-27-10 07:11 PM
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15. Australia also has nationalized health care, and many "socialist" programs |
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Which helps local industry to compete in a world wide economy!
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Thu Jan-28-10 01:03 PM
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16. Just look what corporate welfare has done for China... |
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When the government's got your back, jobs are easy to steal.
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Thu Jan-28-10 01:13 PM
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17. It's a shame they have to pay to get our studios for that. Their people provide some of the profit |
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for the studios why shouldn't they have some of the work? Of course our isolationist members will answer that only Americans deserve jobs.
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Thu Jan-28-10 01:28 PM
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18. Are not most of the major movie studios based in the US? |
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So yes, Americans should have those jobs. I don't want American film jobs exported any more than I do an American factory, IT, or any other American job.
I want to hear or read the reaction when you tell a Union member of a Hollywood film craft that they should not have a job because someone in another country "deserves" it more. You know.... American Union workers, the things Progressives are SUPPOSED to support?
Then, we constantly hear the MPAA complaining about piracy costing Americans jobs, but we don't hear a peep from them about all those American film industry jobs being lost because of overseas film production.
If Progressives want to know why they are not more highly valued in this country, it is because too many Progressives are too ready and willing to sacrifice their fellow Americans on the altar of some greater notion of international "justice" and "brotherhood".
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