'Devout Christian' wants California's Mt. Diablo renamed Mt. Reagan

[Newsjock]

Source: Contra Costa Times

Still upset over the devilish connotations of Mount Diablo, an Oakley man has yet again petitioned a federal agency to rename Contra Costa's signature peak. This time he wants to rename the 3,849-foot-high mountain after the 40th president of the United States — Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Arthur Mijares officially proposed Mount Reagan to the United States Board on Geographic Names last summer, and the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors legislative committee will be briefed on their options at the committee's Monday meeting. The federal agency gave the supervisors until March 31 to submit an opinion.

Although fighting an uphill battle, the devout Christian Mijares believes the word "Diablo," which is Spanish for "devil," is "derogatory and profane," according to the federal board report. In 2005, Mijares attempted to change the name to Mount Reagan, but the board, citing its Commemorative Naming Policy, told him the late president needed to be dead for at least five years before receiving any such honor. The former California governor died June 5, 2005. Mijares, an Oakley resident, argued that the devil, or "diablo," was a "living person" so that name should also be prohibited.

Mijares eventually settled on three alternative options: Mount Yahweh, Mount Miwok or Mount Ohlone. The federal board eventually denied all three options, citing the negative recommendations from the supervisors and other agencies, many with Mount Diablo in their names.

Read more: http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/localnews/ci_14284156?source=rss

[cyberswede]

1. That name change doesn't solve a thing...

...Reagan WAS the devil.

[burrowowl]

6. Right-On!

[glitch]

27. !

:spray:

[CreekDog]

36. In honor of Ronald Reagan, county plans to leave Mt. Diablo's name unchanged

[ibegurpard]

57. HA!

I'd love to see this douchebag's face if someone said that to him

[Joe the Liberal]

61. LOL......

exactly changing the name wouldn't change a thing. :rofl:

[Monk06]

76. I was just going to say, "So they just want the name translated into English."

[Sultana]

2. How about NO.....

[dbonds]

3. Well Reagan kind of equals a Diablo

But these nut jobs want everything in this country named after one of the worst presidents. If not for Reagan the country would not be in as bad a shape as it is, he started the downward slide.

[DeepBlueC]

4. as far as I am concerned

"Diablo" and "Reagan" are synonyms. But I prefer Diablo.

[Warpy]

5. I'd say the names were equivalent but

the Devil is a fictional character.

Reagan was all too real.

[Arctic Dave]

7. I wonder how he feels about Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant?

[TexasObserver]

8. Both names mean the same thing, so why the change?

How about the Reagan Diablo Mountain?

[BOSSHOG]

9. Surely there is a sewage ttreatment plant in California that needs a name

[cyberswede]

21. *snicker* n/t

[nykym]

22. Didn't

Bush get that honor?

[Jamastiene]

65. DUzy

:spray:

[mmonk]

10. What's the difference?

[MisterP]

11. not only did he come back 3 days after a fatal wound, but

R 1
O 2
N 3
A 4
L 5
D 6

W 1
I 2
L 3
S 4
O 5
N 6

R 1
E 2
A 3
G 4
A 5
N 6

[DJ13]

12. Even Nancy didnt want to mount Reagan

I'll save someone the trouble......

:spank:

:yoiks:

[Ishoutandscream2]

15. Rimshot

[Journeyman]

23. An instant rimshot. . .

www.instantrimshot.com/

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

33. You are a very bad man. n/t

[Mudoria]

13. What did the native Americans call the mountain?

They were there first so using it's real name seems a no-brainer...

[proud patriot]

19. Yahweh

[Sebastian Doyle]

42. So the Mormons were right then?

and the Native Americans really were Hebrews who sailed over from Israel in barrel boats?

Why else would they use the name Yahweh?

[Xithras]

48. There were a lot of names. Mt. Volvon would probably be the fairest.

Diablo actually existed within the territory of the Volvon tribe, and its original name was literally "Mountain of the Volvon". Sadly, the Volvon language is extinct, so we don't actually know how it was pronounced in their own dialect (the Volvon were a subgroup of the Bay Miwok, and when the Spanish destroyed their villages, they either moved into other Miwok tribes and adopted their languages, or simply learned Spanish).

The problem with Diablo is that it's a VERY tall peak that sticks up well above its surroundings, and is visible from well over 150 miles on an incredibly clear day. When the weather and sun are just right, you can actually see it from Yosemite (and vice-versa). Being so visible, it has dozens of names from dozens of tribes.

[mike_c]

14. good GAWD you can't make shit like this up....

Life really is stranger than fiction. A "devout christian" who wants to change the name of a mountain from the devil in spanish to the name of a minor demon in english. :rofl:

[Zoeisright]

16. Why don't these people EVER do anything constructive??

I mean, they waste time and energy on the most meaningless shit. I'll rejoin a church the day these right wing freaks start doing something constructive, like helping the poor or feeding hungry children instead of obsessive about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the problems facing humanity.

[ddeclue]

17. No importa! El Diablo es el mismo que Ronald Wilson Reagan!

:evilgrin: :rofl:

[proud patriot]

18. I live at the base of Mt Diablo ... they better not rename it

[madamesilverspurs]

20. Some of these christopublicans

seem to have some difficulty defining the object(s) of their devotion. It's sometimes fun to point out to them that idolatry is prohibited; it's especially fun to do so while they're genuflecting on the mention of reagan's name.


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[Initech]

24. Change devil mountain to the name of a demon president? Why not? Seems fitting.

[randr]

25. Diablo or Reagan- no diff--works for me

[Ian David]

26. Let's call it Mount Douchebag. n/t

[spanone]

28. was ronnie a devout christian? i thought he was a devout republican

[Quantess]

29. Action URGENTLY needed for this "Mt Diablo crisis".

California's fate hinges on the name of a hilltop. Solve that, and everything will be great! :eyes:

[thunder rising]

30. Only if every reference to the devil in the Bible is changed to Reagan

[SoCalDem]

31. Diablo? Reagan? no need for a name change:)

I want to SEE all of the "Reagan Papers" before another thing gets named after that old fart..


naming things after famous politicians should never occur until they have been dead for at least 20 years

[Fumesucker]

32. Eh, the Reagans retired to a house at 666 St. Cloud Road

Nancy, in an attempt to cover the truth, had it changed to 668.

[Sebastian Doyle]

43. Reagan himself was 666

count the letters in his names (Ronald Wilson Reagan)

[Fumesucker]

54. Yeah, I know, that had already been mentioned upthread though.. n/t

[Marr]

34. Ever see the paintings these political/religious zealots make?

They're amazing. They have this stew of ideas that are completely unrelated in any logical sense, but they're all in the same pot for these people for some reason. Things like apple pie, George Washington, and Moses. They revere the flag like it's a religious symbol. It's bizarre, and I think, speaks of a profound ignorance and subservience to authority.

[Froward69]

35. The bible thumpers had a tough time with

mt. Purgatory here. the city of Durango tried to change the name but we still call it and the ski resort on it... Purgatory.

[Lost-in-FL]

37. Why not Mt Cheney? nt

[Shallah Kali]

38. Grover Norquist is behind a project to name things in every state & county after reagan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honors_named_for_Ronald_Reagan

:puke:

[badgerpup]

39. Aw, fer cryin' out loud...

:banghead::eyes:

Many of these people describe themselves as "God-fearing".
They MUST have some really paranoid crazy-ass god, if it's going to "get" them for ANY perceived reference to the opposition party. I'd be afraid too...:hide:

Reminds me of this Texas town...
http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/18/texas-town-changes-greeting-to-heaven-o/

You greet people by saying "Heaven-o" rather than "Hell-o" because hell is bad and negative and heaven...well...isn't.

You can drive yourself nuts looking for stuff like this...sort of like trying to avoid the number thirteen.
The harder you look though, the more "#13"s you come up against until your entire life is wasted through trying to avoid ANYTHING that might have the slightest connection with #13.

Hmmm...anyone see any similarities?

I was going to say something like how 'the devil was in the details'...but that was just TOO easy... :evilgrin:

[upi402]

40. and I want Ronald Raygun renamed; "El Diablo"

so what if the deluded wants to force the real world into his/hew crazy-making reality? STFU to the loon, I say.

[bridgit]

41. What gibberish that? They should rename Jelly Belly into Reagan Beans

That's what all his foreign & domestic policy was based on - and just look how enthralled he would be

[Sebastian Doyle]

46. It's bad enough the Jelly Belly company has a portrait of him in their factory.

Made from..... well, what else?

[bridgit]

51. Oy! Yeah I seen that well then there it is...they're half way there already

[fishwax]

72. ugh

:(

[SemiCharmedQuark]

44. "And my good friend Frankenstein is now Franken-reagan"

[timtom]

45. Wouldn't the name swap be an even trade

Reagan = Diablo?

[pipi_k]

66. Hell no...more like downgrading!

:evilgrin:

[grantcart]

47. Mount Yahweh - lol - the word "Yahweh" actually doesn't exist in the hebrew bible..

[Monk06]

77. Yahweh is actually a Caanite god who had a wife actually. Her name was Asherah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McJX44aeMhM

[Xithras]

49. Anyone who has hiked to the top of Diablo knows that it EARNED the name.

That mountain killed my legs for a week!

[fascisthunter]

50. Diablo=Reagan... too funny

weirdo fanatics

[Hepburn]

52. One Mt. Wilson is enough....

...and with the name "Diablo," it already is named after Ronnie Raygun.

[whistler162]

53. Sounds okay to me.

Although doesn't he live in Washington state these days?

[GeorgeGist]

55. Thanks Ronnie ...

for leading America back; instead of forward.














on edit:sarcasm:

[The Gunslinger]

Diablo Reagan..Aren't they the same thing anyways?

[Joanne98]

56. GRRRRRRRR

[Tesha]

58. I'd support "Reagan de Diablo".

Did I get my Spanish right? "Reagan the Devil"?

Tesha

[Ignis]

59. "Mijares believes the word 'Diablo'...is derogatory"

Derogatory to/towards/against whom, exactly? :rofl:

[librechik]

60. Truth is out--Reagan is the devil.

I always suspected...

[troubledamerican]

71. r-o-n-a-l-d = 6. // w-i-l-s-o-n = 6. // r-e-a-g-a-n = 6. (666)

http://pages.prodigy.net/lightoftheworld/omens.html

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The names Ronald, Wilson, and Reagan each have six letters. (Rev 13:18)
*
Reagan's post-presidency California ranch address number was 666 before Nancy had it changed to 668.
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Reagan was shot and wounded and recovered from the wound. (Rev 13:3).
*
On election day of 1980, 666 was the winning lottery number in both New Jersey and Maryland.
*
In 1984 on the Saturday after his re-election 666 was again the winning lottery number in Maryland. It was sold out making it the number with the most winners until that point in time.
*
In his first speech as President Reagan mentioned the number 666 as the cost in dollars that was added to new cars by government regulations.
*
Reagan's first budget predicted 666 billion dollars in government revenues.
*
Reagan's re-election campaign cost 66.6 million dollars.
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Reagan's first primary victory in the California Governors race came in 6/66
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July 6, 1999 California votes to produce Reagan license plates in a 66 to 6 vote.
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Reagan's first film was the 666th film released by Hollywood.
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One anagram for Ronald Wilson Reagan is "Insane Anglo Warlord."
*
Another anagram for Ronald Wilson Reagan is "I ran old war on Angels."



The probability of all these things happening to a man who is not the antichrist is almost nil.

[librechik]

78. hmmm--maybe that's why Poppy Bush tried to have him killed

if so, he's a hero instead of--well, I kinda think Poppy is the devil, too. No doubt there's another similar list about him somewhere.

[Warren DeMontague]

62. Nobody better tell this asshat what "Teton" really means.

:o

[rd_kent]

63. argued that the devil, or "diablo," was a "living person" - Well, lets talk to him then!

and see if the devil is a bad as they say. If he is real, then he should be able to show up, right?

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

64. Mt Reaganblow

[salguine]

67. Just name it Mt. Shut The Fuck Up.

[southernyankeebelle]

68. Just had his name Mt. R. Reagan Diablo. It suits him fine like that.

[Raine]

69. Reagan ... Diablo ... same thing nt

[KamaAina]

70. I don't suppose he had a problem watching the fundie Xtian TV station that broadcast from Mt. Diablo

for years (it switched to Spanish a few years ago). :eyes:

[NYC Liberal]

73. I'd suggest that we push to name it "Mount Clinton" to piss the wingers off...but

that might lead to ... unsavory jokes.

:hide:

[NYC Liberal]

74. I'd suggest that we push to name it "Mount Clinton" to piss the wingers off...but

that might lead to ... unsavory jokes.

:hide:

[NYC Liberal]

75. I'd suggest that we push to name it "Mount Clinton" to piss the wingers off...but

that might lead to ... unsavory jokes.

:hide: