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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:56 PM
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US scientists step towards nuclear fusion with laser shot

US scientists step towards nuclear fusion with laser shot

US scientists have produced a laser shot with an unprecedented energy level that could be a key step towards nuclear fusion, the US National Nuclear Security Administration said Wednesday.

The researchers for the first time delivered a megajoule of energy to a target by focusing 192 laser beams at the same time at a temperature of 111 million Celsius (200 million Fahrenheit), it said in a statement.

"Breaking the megajoule barrier brings us one step closer to fusion ignition," said the body's administrator Thomas D?Agostino in a statement.

"This milestone is an example of how our nation's investment in nuclear security is producing benefits in other areas, from advances in energy technology to a better understanding of the universe."


More at http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_scientists_step_towards_nuclear__01282010_af.html
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:01 PM
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1. "..advances in energy technology, a better understanding of the universe, & killing many people."
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:02 PM
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3. non nuclear methods are far far far more effective at killing people and more cost effective.
if you consider all the humans killed in hate or by their govt, or in war the number killed by nuclear weapons is a rounding error.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:03 PM
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5. That and a fusion reactor is not a weapon. (nt)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:04 PM
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7. Sure, and that doesn't change the fact that such technology in the wrong hands is deadly
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:07 PM
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10. Bullets in the wrong hands are deadly.
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 05:07 PM by Statistical
Far easier to acquire if you want to kill a dozen people.

Far cheaper if you want to kill million plus people.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:13 PM
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18. A 'better' comparison here would be paranoid ranting about the threat of molds or forges. (nt)
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:07 PM
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11. Nor does it change the fact that knee-jerk reflexive...
...fear and loathing of technology you know very little about is deadly stupid.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:11 PM
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14. So is setting up instantaneous mass delivery systems of extinction-ensuring weaponry
... yet that didn't stop fuckin' idiots from implementing it
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:12 PM
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15. Doesn't stop similar ones from pretending they know what they're talking about, too
I'd quiz you on what the process described in the article involves, but I already know you neither know anything about it nor want to.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:13 PM
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19. So, knee-jerk anti-technology attitudes are the solution?
If you don't screech something silly the moment you hear "laser" millions will die without your vigilance?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:15 PM
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21. I assumed the evil N word was the source of the freakout here. (nt)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:31 PM
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25. This bit, actually; "our nation's investment in nuclear security"
I figured that was the thrust of the article, and not a highly specialized techno field that only a few DUers w/knowledge of would chime in on ... which, if I hadn't blundered, the thread probably would've been rather quiet in comparison. Auh well
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:10 PM
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12. You clearly don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.
This has nothing to do with weapons technology.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:10 PM
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13. Oh brother..FACEPALM!
This is a giant building full of laser equipment, NOT a weapon system you can deliver at the tip of a cruise missile. Even if it WAS small, it isn't any kind of a weapon.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:12 PM
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17. Got it - assumed such technology would quickly be in the hands of military
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:13 PM
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20. The military has been building fusion bombs since the 1950s.
This is something that has nothing to do with military hardware, except maybe for powering subs and aircraft carriers.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:24 PM
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22. Compared to controlled nuclear fusion, fusion bombs are easy peasy..
The first true fusion bomb was tested on November 1, 1952, the Mike shot of Operation Ivy, Eniwetok, yield 10.4 megatons.

It will probably surprise you to know that it is possible to produce a fusion reaction in a well equipped home workshop.

http://www.brian-mcdermott.com/fusion_is_easy.htm
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:26 PM
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23. If only we could generate electricity from human ignorance.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:30 PM
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24. The excess current would melt the planet. (nt)
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 06:15 PM
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27. DUZY.nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 09:20 PM
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29. Not only that, but they BOMBED THE MOON!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:02 PM
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2. If they can use it to start fusion, they can use it to aim at dirty hippies.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:03 PM
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4. Except, y'know, they can't in this case. (nt)
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:05 PM
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8. If the "dirty hippies" are very, very small...
...bring themselves into the laboratory, and stand still in one tiny place at the focus of all of these lasers... they're toast!!!
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:04 PM
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6. Wonder what type of fuel this system uses.
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 05:05 PM by Statistical
D-T?

He3?

Oops should have red a little closer. Looks like it is D-T. The moon and her massive reserves of He3 is safe.

"The US body said that in order to demonstrate fusion scientists focused the lasers into a cylinder the size of a pencil eraser containing a tiny targets filled with fuel containing deuterium and tritium, two isotopes of hydrogen."
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:07 PM
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9. i want peer review
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 05:07 PM by upi402
peer review

peer review peer review

peer review peer review peer review peer review

and then take a second look at all requisite double checking please
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:12 PM
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16. The Polywell is still a better design.
Less complicated, less to break, and it works RIGHT NOW.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 06:13 PM
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26. Minus that whole unity problem.
What if this achieves unity and Polywell never does.

It is possible some a design to deadend at <1.0.

Best solution is have multiple different technologies. If one has a breakthrough and produces unity then we can stop experiments in other methods.

The polywell may be the best design but if it never produces more power than it consumers then it isn't a power reactor by definition.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 06:32 PM
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28. Levitating magnet may yield new approach to clean energy
Tests on an experimental machine show alternative path to taming nuclear fusion

http://web.mit.edu/press/2010/fusion-ldx.html

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — A new experiment that reproduces the magnetic fields of the Earth and other planets has yielded its first significant results. The findings confirm that its unique approach has some potential to be developed as a new way of creating a power-producing plant based on nuclear fusion — the process that generates the sun’s prodigious output of energy.

Fusion has been a cherished goal of physicists and energy researchers for more than 50 years. That’s because it offers the possibility of nearly endless supplies of energy with no carbon emissions and far less radioactive waste than that produced by today’s nuclear plants, which are based on fission, the splitting of atoms (the opposite of fusion, which involves fusing two atoms together). But developing a fusion reactor that produces a net output of energy has proved to be more challenging than initially thought.

The new results come from an experimental fusion reactor at the Plasma Science and Fusion Center on the MIT campus, inspired by observations from space made by satellites. Called the Levitated Dipole Experiment, or LDX, a joint project of MIT and Columbia University, it uses a half-ton donut-shaped magnet about the size and shape of a large truck tire, made of superconducting wire coiled inside a stainless steel vessel. This magnet is suspended by a powerful electromagnetic field, and is used to control the motion of the 10-million-degree-hot electrically charged gas, or plasma, contained within its 16-foot-diameter outer chamber.

The results, published this week in the journal Nature Physics, confirm the counter-intuitive prediction that inside the device’s magnetic chamber, random turbulence causes the plasma to become more densely concentrated — a crucial step to getting atoms to fuse together — instead of becoming more spread out, as usually happens with turbulence. This “turbulent pinching” of the plasma has been observed in the way plasmas in space interact with the Earth’s and Jupiter’s magnetic fields, but has never before been recreated in the laboratory.

Most experiments in fusion around the world use one of two methods: tokamaks, which use a collection of coiled magnets surrounding a donut-shaped chamber to confine the plasma, or inertial fusion, using high-powered lasers to blast a tiny pellet of fuel at the device’s center. But LDX takes a different approach. “It’s the first experiment of its kind,” says MIT senior scientist Jay Kesner, MIT’s physics research group leader for LDX, who co-directs the project with Michael E. Mauel, professor of applied physics at Columbia University's Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science.

The results of the experiment show that this approach “could produce an alternative path to fusion,” Kesner says, though more research will be needed to determine whether it would be practical. For example, though the researchers have measured the plasma’s high density, new equipment still needs to be installed to measure its temperature, and ultimately a much larger version would have to be built and tested.

Kesner cautions that the kind of fuel cycle planned for other types of fusion reactors such as tokamaks, which use a mixture of two forms of “heavy” hydrogen called deuterium and tritium, should be easier to achieve and will likely be the first to go into operation. The deuterium-deuterium fusion planned for devices based on the LDX design, if they ever become practical, would likely make this “a second-generation approach,” he says.

When operating, the huge LDX magnet is supported by the magnetic field from an electromagnet overhead, which is controlled continuously by a computer based on precision monitoring of its position using eight laser beams and detectors. The position of the half-ton magnet, which carries a current of one million amperes (compared to a typical home’s total capacity of 200 amperes) can be maintained this way to within half a millimeter. A cone-shaped support with springs is positioned under the magnet to catch it safely if anything goes wrong with the control system.

Levitation is crucial because the magnetic field used to confine the plasma would be disturbed by any objects in its way, such as any supports used to hold the magnet in place. In the experimental runs, they recreated the same conditions with and without the support system in place, and confirmed that the confinement of the plasma was dramatically increased in the levitated mode, with the supports removed. With the magnet levitated, the central peak of plasma density developed within a few hundredths of a second, and closely resembled those observed in planetary magnetospheres (such as the magnetic fields surrounding Earth and Jupiter).

Summarizing the difference between the two approaches, Kesner explains that in a tokamak, the hot plasma is confined inside a huge magnet, but in the LDX the magnet is inside the plasma. The whole concept, he says, was inspired by observations of planetary magnetospheres made by interplanetary spacecraft. In turn, he says, for planetary research the experiments in LDX can yield “a lot more subtle detail than you can get by launching satellites, and more cheaply.”

The MIT and Columbia scientists say that if the turbulence-induced density enhancement exhibited by the LDX could be scaled up to larger devices, it might enable them to recreate the conditions necessary to sustain fusion reactions, and thus may point the way toward abundant and sustainable production of fusion energy.

“Fusion energy could provide a long-term solution to the planet’s energy needs without contributing to global warming,” says Columbia’s Mauel.

The LDX project, led by Mauel and Kesner and funded by the U.S. Department of Energy, has been through more than 10 years of design, construction and testing, and produced its first experimental results in its levitated configuration last year, which are being reported in the analysis published this week. Dr. Darren Garnier of Columbia University, who directs LDX experimental operations, last month received the Rose Award for Excellence in Fusion Engineering for his work on LDX. A newly installed microwave interferometer array, developed by MIT graduate student Alex Boxer PhD ‘09, was used to make the precision measurements of the plasma concentrations that were used to observe the turbulent pinch.

“LDX is one of the most novel fusion plasma physics experiments underway today,” says Stewart Prager, director of the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory. Because of the unique geometry of the system, he says, “theoretical predictions indicate that the confinement of energy might be very favorable” for producing practical fusion power, but the theory needs to be confirmed in practice. “For these benefits to be realized, the somewhat bold theoretical predictions must be realized experimentally,” he says.
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