Mike Bloomberg and his back pedaling..

[butterfly77]

Aren't these the same people who were bragging about how bad America is..What are they afraid of any guesses?



By Alex Spillius in Washington
Published: 10:07PM GMT 28 Jan 2010

The decision of the mayor, an ally of the president, was a blow to the White House as it sought to hold trials that were intended in part make a statement about how its handling of justice and terror issues differed from the George W. Bush era.

With opposition to the plan to move the detainees from the Guantanamo Bay detention centre growing in Congress, Mr Obama was counting on the support of New York.

but echoing neighbourhood business groups, Wall Street firms and the real estate industry, Mr Bloomberg said the costs, estimated at $200 million a year, and inconvenience were simply too high for the city to bear.

"It's going to cost an awful lot of money and disturb an awful lot of people," he said. "My hope is that the attorney general and the president decide to change their mind."

Mr Bloomberg concurred with Julie Menin, chairman of Community Board 1 in lower Manhattan, who said the Justice Department should consider "outside-the-box" ideas for a trial venue, such as Governors Island, a former military base in New York Harbour, or the military academy at West Point, north of the city in New York state.

Steven Spinola, chairman of the real estate board of New York, said that the steep price tag for security, which would be incurred mostly from police overtime, was only part of the problem.

"What's the economic impact on the city of New York?" he asked. "The restaurants in Chinatown, the small stores in lower Manhattan? This is just the wrong place to put the trial."

Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman, said, "We are aware of the impacts that added security can have on neighboring communities, and we will work closely with local officials to minimise disruptions to the community to the greatest extent possible, consistent with security needs."

[Libertas1776]

1. Big business

always trumps any alleged "alliances." Bloomturd was, is and always will be a whore for big business and big real estate. Just look at what he has done to this city in his first 2 legal terms. God knows what he'll do in his third illegal term.

[aquart]

2. Bloomberg just pisses me off these days.

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[spanone]

4. if i were him, i'd want ksm tried by new yorkers right in their front yard. guess i'm a moron, eh

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[Gecko6400]

13. Yes but,

could he get a fair trial with an impartial jury there? That's what this Administration has guaranteed him, and others. I'm quite sure there would be a change in venue anyway.

[butterfly77]

17. Didn't these New Yorkers tell us...

"These colors don't bleed" " Bring em'on! Victory!Victory! "We will bring these terrorists to justice"

I don't understand it Are these the same people who were talking about how they were going to kick the terrorists' asses. What in the hell are they afraid of????

[butterfly77]

6. So why do they need to wait ...

until the day of the trial to attack New York?

[butterfly77]

7. Fox is pounding this thing day after day..

what in the hell are they afraid of? They have frightened the hell out of the shop owners and the people who were there on 911 and told them to remember that day. Have they ever thought that the terrorists don't need that day to committ terrorism? Why would they choose the time where they know that the country is more alert.

If they wanted to do something they have had plenty of chances to do something. They told us bush has kept us safe with his policies is there something they didn't tell us like how many people he let into this country and the authorites don't know who or where they are.

If I were to be afraid of anyone it would be the Republicons who,shoot up Holocaust Museums,shoot up their families and anyone else because they can't get their way,set up policies that kill us here in America everyday and they still think it isn't good enough. This whole thing is about protecting bush/cheney and no telling who else.

Look at the news and see where the terrorists are they are on your nightly news and the RepubliCONS are the ones who created many of them..I am terrorized everyday when I have to watch my back,my purse,car,etc..Is this the freedom the Repugs want to continue to give us they are so full of shit and I really can't believe how stupid the people in this country are.

Bush and the republicons told us throughout his eight years how brave American's were and Fox sat there telling these so called terrorists how Bad they are and now we are suppose to be afraid of a little trial in Manhattan..

A lot of the Dems are letting them do it again they have already roped in Feinstein and Shumer, Feinstein who is really a republicon along with her husband who have investments in the war are the first to jump on the bandwagon these silly ass Dems need to be pounded with emails they listen to the Repubs who always have a campaign of writing to them and they really think that they are the majority of the people who think that way.

Dems are thinking about other issues this is how they got away with Massachusetts most of the people who are suppose to be running the Democratic party aren't up to speed on anything and by the time they start to do anything they are usually too late. Just like when they let the teabaggers and the bluedog Baucas and Evan Bayh take over that issue. Wake up America! People in this country really are STUPID!!!

[KharmaTrain]

8. If There's A Will...

I think there's a lot of shitstaining by wingnuts about the "terra terra terra" game their corrupt leaders have been feeding them. Here's a guy whose been in maximum security plus plus (the extra plus for whatever torture happened to him beyond waterboarding) and many of his "friends" either are at Gitmo with him or hiding in a cave. We've seen half-assed "attempts" by supposed Al Queda that showed how flawed our "security" is and how its almost impossible to keep someone whose hellbent on creating mayhem will slip through the cracks. I've long felt that our true terrorists are internal and love to operate in the cloud and diversion of blaming Al Queda or anyone with an Arabic sounding name.

Bloomberg is under pressure as Lower Manhattan is sure to become a circus for this trial...and not because of a "terrorist threat" but by the throng of corporate mediatypes and their trucks that will turn the area around the Federal Building into massive gridlock. And, yep, it's just down the street from Wall Street...and we know how those wheeler-dealers don't like to be inconvenienced in their gambling casino.

All the harping from faux noise hasn't helped as we see many rushpublicans (and Bloomberg is one) who are more scared of Hannity than they are of bin Laden or their own shadow.

There are plenty of other venues...and I've heard of a couple town in New York who said they could handle the trial...so be it. As long as there's trial...as long as its fair and that wheels of justice turn as they shall. For those shitstains who claim he's a war criminal...show me the declaration of war...and not some goofy resolution that uses a noun, not a nation, group or individual...a declaration approved by both Houses that is how our Constitution determined it should be done.

[butterfly77]

9. In the meantime...

what will the Dems do come in too late, and start backing down because they get out their people while they know that they have most of our people living in shelters,tent cities,cars,on the street,in the process of getting foreclosed on,just got fired no doubt by some rightwinger who runs the company and who really just wants to prove a point about the President and who really doesn't give a damn about this country its all about the money but,they tell us we hate America...

[KharmaTrain]

10. Apples & Oranges...

If anything, moving this trial will save money for NYC and the Federal Government that may, just may go to help relieving problems. But please stay on topic. This is not/should not be a political issue. If NYC doesn't want it, then move it and get this trial and justice done with. No, it won't feed people or create jobs but it will show the world that we value the rule of law above all. It will demonstrate the strength of our judicial system rather than keeping these "terrorists" or whatever you want to call them in indefinite detention (that is a great recruiting tool for unrest in the Arab world) and doing some sham "war trial" that would also be internationally condemned.

The Democrats have their work cut out in passing a budget and trying to kick a dysfunctional Senate into action...that's whose prolonging a lot of this administration's problems.

[butterfly77]

11. This is not about saving New York city money..

we can demonstrate the strength of our judical system just the same by leaving it where it is already. This is about POLITICS and protecting Bush/Cheney and the rest of the gang..

[KharmaTrain]

14. How Does This Protect The boooosh Cabal???

If they had their druthers, they'd leave KSM in Gitmo and let him rot. They're against any trial whatsoever. This is not about stopping a trial, just a change of venue. The trial goes on...and we'll see what type of evidence the government has that demonstrates this dude masterminded the 9/11 attack...those are the charges.

Moving it will save NYC millions in the extra security needed to rope off the Federal building...from rerouting traffic to flying copters and overtime...that burden will fall to someone else.

[Stevenmarc]

16. Total ...

fucking nonsense, see #12, it has nothing to do with Bush/Cheney and everything to do with diluting the power of the unions with concessions to save jobs. If you lived in NYC, like I do, then you might actually understand that this is a local political decision by Bloomburg and not some tinfoil hat end run to protect a past administration.

[Stevenmarc]

12. Alex Spillius doesn't know shit.

As a NY'er there was another story that was very closely related to this story and it's a fairly obvious dot that Alex failed to connect. Before Bloomburg announced his opposition to the trials there was little dog and pony show a couple of days before, the proposed firing of city workers, an obvious preemptive strike to upcoming union contract negotiations.

It would have been impossible for Bloomburg to sell the concept that the city couldn't afford to pay those workers with with a billion dollar trial wedged into the budget.

[spanone]

15. 'they' won't be happy till all news from this trial is suppressed....

god forbid we implicate cheney & bu$h* and their torture practices....that is what they are afraid of....the truth

[butterfly77]

18. I have never seen the former Governor..

of New York as animated as he has been when it comes to this issue of this trial he always seem to be dry and unemotional,and looking like he was constipated but as soon as he heard this trial was going to be in New york he seem to come to life.

He seems to afraid of something I wonder what that could be????