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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:35 PM
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Love him. Hate him. Agree with him or not. You have to admit .....
..... he's not afraid to take it to the opposition.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:37 PM
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1. Yep.
:kick:
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:37 PM
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2. DESTROYED THEM. WOWO#WOWOWOWOWO
x.x.sx.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:37 PM
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3. Yep My wife just said
"This is like Jay leno working a room full of COnan O'obrian' relatives...."

The fucking prez could be the bravest politician I have ever seen.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:38 PM
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4. As my husband just said ...
This is where being really smart has its advantages.
His knowledge and debating skills were worth a thousand angry slogans.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:10 PM
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16. I'm convinced he's reading DU...LOL....eom
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:38 PM
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5. he's very good with words
NOW FUCKING TAKE ACTION
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:59 PM
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13. This is what we're all waiting to see. No question, the man rules with his words.
But we've known that for a long time. Let's see if those words can affect something tangible, like HCR, or Campaign finance reform.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:39 PM
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6. This Was A Civil Exchange And Both The President & Repugs Exchanged Good......
dialogue. What galls me is that as soon as it broke - Andria Mitchell said it was confrontational. And Jay Rockefeller instead of applauding the effort - said he didn't thing it would help. Comments like these are what is going to continue the logjam we have in Congress. We need more back and forth like this - in public - and let the people see what each side it thinking.

I like the fact that the President said he will bring both the Dems & Repugs together with him to do more of this kind of thing.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:42 PM
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7. (A prime example of The Villagers circling the wagons)
"confrontational" is already out there..

When will we hear Wolfie say "does this signal a conciliatory stance by the embattled president?"
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:46 PM
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9. Word Should Have Gone Out To All Dems In Congress - Both Senate & House..
before this exchange - to extend the olive branch to the Repugs after this exchange. If anyone takes shots at this interchange - let it be the Repugs. Rockefeller's comments didn't help here.

We need to show the American public who the adults are here.

If the Repugs were smart now - they would only shower complements on this exchange and not take shots either.

It's going to be interesting to see how this is covered by Tweety, Ed, Keith, Rachel, Wolf, Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:56 PM
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12. Rockefeller was just stating the obvious.
It's not going to help break the log jam. But, at least people seeing it for themselves now. I'm glad the President had this thing televised.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:44 PM
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8. This was better than any press conference
More informative plus he got them to laugh at their own political approach to everything.

Rockefeller, talking to Andrea Mitchell, was saddened by what he saw because he wonders if anything will come of it. He may have missed the point of how it's really just a beginning to trying to change how D.C. works. A baby step, actually. But quite a large baby step, imo.

Nobody can imagine W doing this. So, to me, today was for us to view and make some comparisons between how Republicans operate and how he wants Dems to conduct business. If it's theater it was really good.

His depth of Republican proposals ought to give the Republicans pause.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:48 PM
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10. ...when he actually chooses to do so.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:49 PM
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11. I'm out of the loop. What happened? Can I see it? nt
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:02 PM
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14. Me too, I haven't got a clue...
It just gets my goat how people start discussing things around here without a single preface to the topic, as though EVERYONE already knows (or should know ???) what they are talking about.

Maybe I'm just not hip or savvy enough but I know it's really rather impolite to introduce a topic on a forum without SOME sort of background information. Sheesh!!! :mad::wtf:
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:24 PM
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20. was expecting a front page thing, but it just happened sort of out of the blue
DU kind of sucks when news is actually breaking. there was no one thread to post in, and not enough time to come in with background...
heres' the linky http://c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/01/29/HP/R/28993/President+Speaks+at+GOP+Retreat.aspx
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:51 PM
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23. Thank you very much lxlxlxl...
At least it piqued my curiosity and I started searching around and found out more about it. I will definitely watch the "whole show"!

Thanks again for the link. :)
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:14 PM
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17. He was live on Cspan with the republicans "closed door meeting". Rebroadcasts at 8:00pm EST
He was excellent, well worth it to watch.
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:23 PM
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19. here
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:28 PM
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21. Obama just had a Q&A with the publican 'leadership' and tore them new a$$ holes
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:04 PM
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15. Sometimes he pisses me off
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 02:05 PM by madmax
and then he'll do something like give that amazing SOTU address or enter the belly of the beast as he did today and he woos me back like a skillful lover. :evilgrin: ::blush:
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njlib Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:16 PM
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18. Just when I thought I was out
he pulls me back in, too!! He did a great job and now the ball's in their court. If they continue to just say NO at every turn, they're going to bury themselves deeper.

Don't know how in the world you kept your cool throughout the whole thing, Mr. President! This terrorist fist bump's for you!

:fistbump:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:39 PM
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22. I hear that and this one is for you
:fistbump: :toast:
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:15 PM
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27. actually i didnt even bother with the SOTU, but today he just kicked my head in =)
and i mean kick my head in in a good way. historic today. hope the press gives him the due he deserves, seems like drudge is ignoring it as much as possible. nytimes is kidgloving it...huffpo didnt even have the nerve to banner it.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:01 PM
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29. I was able to ipso facto TiVo it. Oh yeah. I dug it.
I liked this better than the sotu. I love how he took umbrage and set the record straight about the deficit. The fight feels good!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:03 PM
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24. No I don't.. it's taken him a whole year and he had to be brought to this point kicking and
screaming about how we should all be "bi-partisan" and "post-partisan".

Obama's got a long way to go to win me back. When he passes MEANINGFUL legislation on jobs and healthcare (SINGLE PAYER) he will have me back.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:06 PM
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25. if he could do it by himself it would be done by now.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:52 PM
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28. EXCUSES EXCUSES.. LBJ and FDR were able to do more with less
because they knew how to twist arms and knock heads.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:15 PM
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26. You call a$$ ki$$ing the rethugs for over a year not afraid of the opposition?
:wtf:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:17 PM
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30. But enough about Milan Lucic.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:12 PM
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31. He's so bright and well prepared. I can hardly wait for him to take on
Palin in 2012. That would be a dream race for me.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:15 PM
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32. No, he has NOT forced their hand. The GOP thinks he's weak ... and because the
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 10:17 PM by ShortnFiery
Senate has not FORCED the GOP's hand, he does look weak.

Talk is cheap, even eloquent and reasoned arguments when all the public sees is vacillation.

Now's the time for ACTION, not WORDS.
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