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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:44 AM
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Watching GEM$NBC this morning I get the impression that
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 10:44 AM by malaise
the ReTHUGS were stung hard yesterday but they worked all night at coming up with talking points to regroup today. The meme is to say that they attack Obama's increasing debt (pure BS given his response) and they want to talk about the trial rather than the knock out yesterday.

Even Buchanan crawled out late. They are still bruised and sore from yesterday.

How will they spin this on MTP tomorrow.

gr
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:48 AM
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:48 AM
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3. Nice knowing you. nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:57 PM
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46. Darn, I missed it.
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 03:58 PM by Blue_In_AK
Must have been a good one.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 04:00 PM
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47. It was hilarious
bat shit crazy :D
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:42 AM
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55. Ah Hell, I missed it! Was it a good one?
(We've been inundated with a run of truly sub-standard trolls recently.)
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:49 AM
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4. What is that supposed to mean?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:50 AM
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7. i don't get it, either.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:51 AM
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:53 AM
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14. Actually, I imagine DU will be noting your IP address,
so you can't come back with another name. Seeya!
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:54 AM
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15. 2500 Active members?
And you know that how?

Most of us have known who Malaise is for a long time. But I agree some are not who they say they are and are not where they say they are ... you for example.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:55 AM
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17. Why should DU have to "inform" us how many IP addresses originate
from which country?


We already know we're all posting from Iran...


:+

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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:57 AM
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22. SSShhhhhhhh
will ya shut up about that? We're not supposed to talk about Project X!

Hi, Agent Mike! :hi:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:24 AM
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30. The rooster crows at noon...pass it on....
:fistbump:

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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:23 PM
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42. What time zone? I forgot?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:43 AM
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37. So THAT'S why we all hate America and want Obama to fail - silly me
I thought we were closet Republicults. Wrong group of religious fundamentalist - same outcome
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:52 AM
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12. I guess he doesn't like his Rethuglican overlords to be dissed?
:shrug: He was looking for Free Republic and made a wrong turn..
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:49 AM
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5. And what might you be getting in return for posting your trash here?
Go back under your bridge! :spank:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:50 AM
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6. No they pay me in Freeper currency
You know cheetos in mommy's basement.

Do you like flowers? :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:52 AM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:56 AM
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19. What flowers do you like n/t
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:56 AM
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18. Wait! You're NOT Bob Marley????
WE only let you post here 'cuz you got the best weed!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:57 AM
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21. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
I'm Bobsama BinMarley from Irayeminjamaica :rofl:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:26 AM
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31. hahahahaha!!!!
:7

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:11 PM
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40. Don't tell Agent Mike
:D
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:52 AM
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10. Sometimes the truth hurts. I guess it depends which side of the fence you're on.
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 11:09 AM by AndyA
The facts prove that the Republicans are responsible for the mess we're currently in, and since it's not to their benefit to deal with that responsibly, they just act like they had nothing to do with it.

Fortunately for the GOP, many of their supporters are stupid, and will believe everything they're told. They can't figure out for themselves that all of this started BEFORE Obama took office, which means it's IMPOSSIBLE for him to be responsible for it.

Stupidity is rampant on the right.

Edit: To correct spelling.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:52 AM
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11. Now, that makes no sense. Really.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:55 AM
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16. Well, I have my Kremlin account set up for direct deposit through shell corporations

The Communist Chinese still have me on that 'pay for performance' plan, which due to the intermittent nature lends itself to the more traditional suitcase of cash.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:58 AM
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23. Calling Agent Mike
:hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:56 AM
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20. what the fuck is that smell in here? oh
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:00 AM
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25. It's gone
Spray, spray!! Live one buried with a wreath. :rofl:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:04 AM
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27. boy, the leeches have been thick....shows desperation at work
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:31 AM
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34. I'm always late to the party, but this time I got to see one in action
I feel....special.

:7

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:38 PM
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44. Always fun
:evilgrin:
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:48 AM
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2. Do you get "GEM$NBC" in Kingston?
When I was in Negril and Port Antonio a few years ago, I only remember getting CNN. Lots of places in the U. S. dont even get that channel unless they pay for upgrade packages.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:52 AM
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13. GEM$NBC is very popular in Jamaica
We get more of it than Fux - Jamaicans hate Fox and if we go into restaurants and they're showing Fux we threaten to leave and they switch to GEM$NBC.

Hotels that cater for tourists go for BBC and CNN.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:59 AM
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24. Well that explains it
Tourist I was.

And hope to be again. Love Jamaica.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:01 AM
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26. That's much easier as a tourist
This is a rough place for poor people but our island is beautiful.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:27 AM
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32. I was all set to be the first response to the idiot up-thread but
my stupid computer screwed me out of the chance. Was that asshole TSed?

BTW, good to see you malaise, you Iranian-paid dis-info shill you! :)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:52 PM
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45. LOL
I guess he was TSd. I offered flowers for a wreath. Good to see you too Subdivisions :hi:
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:09 AM
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28. Lucky you
I live in Texas and if I go into a business playing Fox and I complain, I get asked to leave. So, as you can see, plenty of people where I live are (emotionally) impoverished also.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:30 AM
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33. I live in Texas too and I've been successful in getting them to change
the channel when I've spoken up about it.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:08 PM
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38. We get it in St Lucia too now..
hopefully C-Span will be next..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:10 PM
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39. You don't have CSpan in St Lucia?
Hope you watch on line.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:14 PM
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41. Karib cable doesn't have it yet on their line-up..
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:23 AM
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29. Obama did a fantastic job yesterday. He always impresses me.
I predict there will be an idiotic Re-Pubic-Con that will say he looked like a deer in the headlights.
Our President showed he is truly brave when it comes to standing up to the Fright Wing Re-Pubic_Con Party.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:33 AM
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35. They can try to spin it - then the clips will be shown... =}
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:40 AM
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36. As always, they will spin it and the Corporate Media will facilitate their spin--in endless
loops and soundbytes.

That's why I maintain that despite the ass-whuppin' President Obama laid on the Republicans yesterday it was a waste of breath and time except to help make some of us Democrats feel better. The man is brilliant and knows his policy details, which he showed yesterday. BUT, it's not knowing that stuff that gets progressive policies passed, it's hardball arm-twisting politics, and I still think he is not up to that task--OR his DLC handlers will not let him be up to that task.

I'll be thrilled to be proved wrong.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:38 PM
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43. He painted them into a corner. If they don't make an effort to
help, they will be painted as obstructionist. If they do help, their radical base will paint them as traitors. I can hear their whining about Ryan right now. Pense looked like a real douche bag.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:16 PM
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48. First, I hope you're right, Alfredo. Second, why has he JUST NOW done that? This has been
going on with every piece of legislation the Democrats have tried to pass FOR A FUCKING YEAR, yet only now have he and his advisors decided to fight back.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:42 PM
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49. Sure, he waited too long to go public in this fight, but he seems
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 08:47 PM by alfredo
to have made some good moves. No matter how the Reps react they are going to piss off a good portion of the people they need come Nov.

Thinking back, it seems he takes his time when it comes to fighting back. We saw that in the campaign. Remember the race speech? We thought he took to long to fight back, but when he did, he knocked it out of the park.

He gave the congress enough time to show they are incapable of acting like adults before he stepped in and read them the riot act.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 09:53 PM
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50. While I agree with everything you said, I see it as a debilitating Democratic bad habit to
wait until you have been beaten down, kicked in the groin, hit over the head with a baseball bat, and put in the hospital before you decide to fight the asshole who told you he was gonna whip your ass in the first place.

My inner cynic tells me it's because the Democrats are simply the Republican-lite party of the Corporate Elites and we are the dumbass zombies who believe every lie they tell us simply because we want HOPE and CHANGE. Any party that really wanted to represent the interests of the people of this nation would have declared virtual war on the Repukes from the first time they voted en masse against the President.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:55 PM
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51. Sometimes you can't get anything done until the people
are fed up or push up against the wall. I am still trying to see if there is a larger strategy I haven't fully grasped, or if they are as you say. Either way, it is painful to watch.

Clinton used to piss/freak me out over some of the triangulation that was going on, but then I understanding of what he was doing. I didn't like what he was doing at the time, but I also appreciated how well he played the game.

BTW, many of the wounds you described were self inflicted.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:43 AM
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52. Clinton, the consummate DLC Democrat, did indeed play the game well. As does Hillary,
and as Barack Obama appears to be doing so far. The "game" appears to be: make enough changes to keep We the People thinking we're working for them while we help solidify the control of the Military-Industrial-Corporate Complex.

Now that we see that President Obama's Justice Department is letting Yoo and Bybee go scot free after pillaging our laws and the Constitution, my cynicism deepens.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:33 AM
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54. Would have it been appropriate for Obama to tell the DoJ who to prosecute?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:26 PM
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56. For starters, it would have been better for all had President Obama not stated publicly that he
was more interested in "going forward instead of looking back" when referring to lawbreaking by the BushCo Cabal. What kind of message do you think that sent to the AG and his crew? To pretend that there was not a huge dose of Presidential influence in this is to ignore the realities.

There are other ways to get the desired result than telling them WHAT to do. Telling them what NOT to do would be effective without being meddlesome. For example, the President could have said to AG Holder "I want this handled by your toughest, most independent investigator. No one who is going to skew the result one way or the other should be involved in this."

Anyone who thinks that decision was not politically influenced is not paying attention.

Maybe you can help me answer this question, Alfredo. Since John Mitchell, Nixon's AG went to jail, has any high-ranking administration official pulled time for malfeasance while in office? I can't remember any. Which makes me wonder if these folks haven't perfected the art of breaking the law with no negative consequences attached.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:53 PM
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57. His agenda (healthcare, economic stability, environment) were what the
American people wanted him to focus on, not on punishing the last administration for their crimes. Anyway, he is not a law enforcement agent, he is an administrator. If he had gone after Bush Inc from the get go, it would have further poisoned an already toxic political environment. Nothing would have gotten done at all. His recent moves to push the GOP into a box wouldn't have worked.

I want bush and his asshole friends in prison, but I also understand the realities of politics and our dire economic situation.

Also Holder is not going to attempt a prosecution unless it is a slam dunk. Much of the evidence has been destroyed or will take many years just to get access to. Politically it is better to let foreign courts charge the bush junta. Obama is open to cooperation with the ICC. That is in line with his attempts to bringing the US back into the world community.


Remember too, the Bill Clinton persecution was an act of revenge for Watergate and Iran Contra prosecutions.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:46 AM
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53. Obama reminded them of ITS COUNTRY F I R S T.....not self interest partisan POLITICS
Did they get it ?

The answer is NO
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