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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 02:55 PM
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China Leading Race to Make Clean Energy
NYT

TIANJIN, China — China vaulted past competitors in Denmark, Germany, Spain and the United States last year to become the world’s largest maker of wind turbines, and is poised to expand even further this year. China has also leapfrogged the West in the last two years to emerge as the world’s largest manufacturer of solar panels. And the country is pushing equally hard to build nuclear reactors and the most efficient types of coal power plants.

These efforts to dominate the global manufacture of renewable energy technologies raise the prospect that the West may someday trade its dependence on oil from the Mideast for a reliance on solar panels, wind turbines and other gear manufactured in China. “Most of the energy equipment will carry a brass plate, ‘Made in China,’ ” said K. K. Chan, the chief executive of Nature Elements Capital, a private equity fund in Beijing that focuses on renewable energy.

...The United States and other countries are offering incentives to develop their own renewable energy industries, and Mr. Obama called for redoubling American efforts. Yet many Western and Chinese executives expect China to prevail in the energy-technology race. Multinational corporations are responding to the rapid growth of China’s market by building big, state-of-the-art factories in China. Vestas of Denmark has just erected the world’s biggest wind turbine manufacturing complex here in northeastern China, and transferred the technology to build the latest electronic controls and generators.

...China’s biggest advantage may be its domestic demand for electricity, rising 15 percent a year. To meet demand in the coming decade, according to statistics from the International Energy Agency, China will need to add nearly nine times as much electricity generation capacity as the United States will.

So while Americans are used to thinking of themselves as having the world’s largest market in many industries, China’s market for power equipment dwarfs that of the United States, even though the American market is more mature. That means Chinese producers enjoy enormous efficiencies from large-scale production. In the United States, power companies frequently face a choice between buying renewable energy equipment or continuing to operate fossil-fuel-fired power plants that have already been built and paid for. In China, power companies have to buy lots of new equipment anyway, and alternative energy, particularly wind and nuclear, is increasingly priced competitively...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/business/energy-environment/31renew.html?hp






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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:23 PM
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1. That is quite the misleading headline
China is doing well in the race to manufacture and export wind turbines and solar panels.
Their coal is still dirt cheap, and their promises notwithstanding, I don't see any large-scale installation in China while that remains the case.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 03:28 PM
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2. Hence the use of the verb "to make" in the headline
:shrug:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 04:46 PM
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3. You misunderstand me, the headline, or the article
All 3 is my guess.
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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:24 PM
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4. and you can be sure
either some rich republican or the rich friend of a republican is invested in it over there up to his eyeballs all while doing everything he can to lobby and make sure the production never starts here.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 06:27 PM
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5. I vote for #1
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 06:38 PM by BeyondGeography
and, on edit, you're obviously the one with the comprehension problem, so I'll help. Hint: It's not a story about China going green.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 07:44 PM
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6. We are in agreement on this point
"It's not a story about China going green." I believe we also agree it's a story about China's strength in "making" solar panels and wind turbines.

My point is that it is not a story about China "making" clean energy, the misleading headline notwithstanding.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:20 PM
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7. "China making a killing on clean energy products"
Maybe?

Doubt the Times would run with that. It wouldn't hurt if Obama did though.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:23 PM
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8. Wait 'til we whip out our Fusion reactor on them. Ha! n/t
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