Obama met with George HW Bush this morning...

[CoffeeCat]

Interesting huh?

I guess Poppy didn't like how Obama completely disgraced his Republican minions
during that Q & A. We can't have an American politician (especially a President)
who governs, leads and exposes the Poppy-driven Fascists who are destroying
our democracy, now can we?

The meeting only lasted 30 minutes. Poppy hasn't been to the White House, since
Obama was President--except when other former Presidents were there for a brief
meeting. I'm speculating, but I doubt Obama would have anything to say to the
granddaddy of American political crime.

Bush Senior called the meeting. I imagine it was to remind Obama of his place.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/30/ap/preswho/main6156945.shtml

[spanone]

1. the bu$h* godfather

[Beetwasher]

2. Very Curious

n/t

[CoffeeCat]

3. Wow...an unrec! Fans of George Sr among us?

Amazing!

[ginnyinWI]

4. First, this was probably planned long ago.

So I highly doubt that it had anything to do with yesterday's retreat.

Second, I doubt Poppy is interested in speaking for the GOP in any way. It was just a courtesy call more than likely.

[xxqqqzme]

11. There are no accidents in politics

If it was a 'courtesy' call, strange he waited over a year to be so 'courteous'. And to show up w/ the jebster. No, no, this stinks. The bfee are not courteius.

[FLDCVADem]

17. The paranoia at DU

is sometimes breathtaking.

[Jamastiene]

19. The state of disrepair of some bullshit meters

is sometimes breathtaking. My bullshit meter goes off anytime I see the Bush's involved in anything...and rightly so. Look at their history.

[FLDCVADem]

22. Thanks for proving my point n/t

[BeFree]

62. Not paranoia...

...it is wisdom. Why have locks on your doors? Because you are wise.

Why do we never want to see another Bush in government or even anywhere close? We are wiser.

[tom_paine]

25. Oh yeah...no reason to be paranoid

It's not like an election was blatantly stolen by the Supreme Court in plain sight, with 2 of the justices actively having family members working for parts of the plaintiffs' campaign.

Gosh, it's not like a completely false war based on false claims that has killed 1.2 million and displaced 5 million was started pretty much in plain sight.

There's more, MUCH more, but why bother listing it all? Just those two things being able to easily, shamelessly and transparently be achieved "in broad daylight", as the saying goes, are more than enough justification to be paranoid.

At this point, if you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention.

Maybe you haven't been watching all of this from the beginning, but you need to study Kremlinology, because this country has, slowly like a field of corn growing, been immersed in delusion equivalent to the 1970s Soviet Union.

We can never know if it's that bad or that obvious, so ultimately this is all speculation, and we all know it.

The question is, is such speculation justified? It would be in a Totalitarian State, such as China or the old Soviet Union.

Consider the hypothesis that this nation is now a totalitarian state, also. A new form of Totalitarianism that has been tailor made for this culture and time period. An Inverted Totalitarianism.

If you are interested, read this link and perhaps reconsider:

http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/20080515_chalmers_johnson_on_our_managed_democracy/

[AndyA]

32. +1. After all, the Bushes are perfectly wonderful people, right?

It's not like Grandpa Bush sold arms to Hilter or anything.

Oh wait... :tinfoilhat:

[kath]

43. Whoa, Tom -- interesting article.

Gave me chills :scared:

Thanks for posting it (I guess :scared:). I learn a lot from your posts.

[havocmom]

51. Yep. There's a difference between being paranoid and being informed

The informed have many reasons to be alarmed.

OT: He's baaaaaack, and I ain't talkin Poppy. :woohoo:

[Bluebear]

27. Well do let us know when you catch your breath

:eyes:

[shraby]

29. Could be because we know the BFEE history.

[Golden Raisin]

34. Yeah. Over 3 generations the

Bush family has given the United States nothing to be paranoid or leery of. :sarcasm:

[kath]

45. I think it may be FOUR generations (or more) -- read the other day that Prescott's daddy did some

kind of shady shit during WWI.

[unkachuck]

57. and often justified....n/t

[donheld]

65. The ignorance of some DU'ers is staggering!

Denial is not a good thing.

[Jamastiene]

21. Any time someone in the GOP opens their mouth, they are speaking for the GOP.

It's not like they have a big tent or anything. They are notorious for their lockstep mentality. Aren't we talking about the same Republican Party here?

[Bluebear]

28. Bush? Courtesy? It does not compute.

[Greenpeach]

5. To Bush Senior,

Good Luck with that.

[rcrush]

6. Is Poppy showing him that mysterious footage of the JFK shooting that no one saw?

Credit to Bill Hicks.

[kath]

46. more and more lately, I'm thinking that BIll Hicks really knew what he was talkin' about there.

[Okie4Obama]

56. Hah that was exactly what I thought when I read this.

"No matter what promises you make on the campaign trail - blah, blah, blah - when you win, you go into this smoky room with the twelve industrialist, capitalist scumfucks that got you in there, and this little screen comes down... and it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before, which looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll.... And then the screen comes up, the lights come on, and they say to the new president, 'Any questions?'

"Just what my agenda is."

[Solly Mack]

7. CBS left out the part about JEB being there as well

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/mysterious-bush-bush-obama-mee.html


"President Barack Obama hosted a pair of Bushes this morning in the Oval Office: former President George H.W. Bush and his son, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush."

[glitch]

30. Ugh. Did they just show up or were they invited?

It could go either way. I bet Poppy was looking for a job for Jebby, something to rehabilitate their name, bring Jebby some national face time but not too much.

Wait for it....

[Solly Mack]

33. Article says it was a social call

Pretending George Bush isn't a war criminal and allowing him to go free makes it more likely that another Bush will seek office. Oh well....in such an event, my bumper sticker will read 'Don't blame me.I still support war crime prosecutions'

[glitch]

61. Maybe they just wanted to thank him personally for this:

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/30-0

Nah, I still think Jeb needs a job. Bushes don't do "thanks" anymore than they do "sorry".

[Duende azul]

36. They got access pretending to be telephone company employees.

[Bluebear]

42. :) hehehe

[Political Heretic]

8. There is no plausable good reason to do this.

Nothing good comes from hosting those 2 in the white house. Even for 30 minutes.

[Duende azul]

50. But a lot of bad reasons come easily to mind.

[TheWatcher]

9. Perhaps he was sharing with him where he actually WAS on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963.

Just as a friendly reminder not to get any bright ideas, and to not make the theater look TOO good.

[kath]

44. Yup. You may have something there.

Ol' George H.W. Bush. Probably the only person over the age of 5 on Nov. 22 1963 who doesn't remember where she/he was that day.

[babylonsister]

10. I heard when former prezs are in town, it's tradition to pay a visit.

Loosen that :tinfoilhat: !!

[GoCubsGo]

53. Yep.

Heard it, too.

[Skink]

12. "So how's W"?

"We're really sorry about that".

[Ardent15]

13. Obama to HW : "Fuck you for the shit that Junior left me." nt

[aquart]

14. That's right. You're SPECULATING. As in, you haven't a clue.

In fact, you have nothing to go on but raging paranoia.

[Lex]

26. And that's different than 85% of the posts on DU

how exactly?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. did HW try to headbutt Obama?

I hope Obama wasn't threatened

[lunatica]

16. It's more like he was there to beg Obama not to debate W on tv

[LWolf]

18. "Bush Senior called the meeting. I imagine it was to remind Obama of his place."

I think Obama is free to decline.

[dems_rightnow]

48. Yeah, that was a dumb satatment

You REQUEST a meeting with the President. Without his consent- no meeting. Even ex-presidents aren't allowed inside the gates of the White House without permission.

[liberalmuse]

20. Fuck.

I still wonder what he was doing in Dallas the day Kennedy was assasinated and about that whole Reagan attempt. He needs to stay the fuck away from Our President!

[quinnox]

23. I found this more interesting

From the link: "Last January, Bush and his son, George W. Bush, joined Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter in a meeting with Obama. That was the first gathering of all the living presidents at the White House in more than a quarter century."

I wonder what is going on. Maybe they are talking about something that is coming down the pike? Something that could be monumental to the human race.

[blogslut]

49. It wasn't a secret meeting.

There were pictures and articles and stuff:

WASHINGTON — Confronting a grim economy and a Middle East on fire, Barack Obama turned Wednesday to perhaps the only people on the planet who understand what he's in for: the four living members of the U.S. presidents' club.

In an image bound to go down in history, every living U.S. president came together at the White House on Wednesday to hash over the world's challenges with the president-elect. There they stood, shoulder-to-shoulder in the Oval Office: George H.W. Bush, Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

"This is an extraordinary gathering," Obama said, looking plenty at ease in the humbling office that will soon be his.

"All the gentlemen here understand both the pressures and possibilities of this office," Obama said. "And for me to have the opportunity to get advice, good counsel and fellowship with these individuals is extraordinary. And I'm very grateful to all of them."

link: http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/01/barack_obama_hails_extraordina.html

Incidentally, the meeting was hosted by then president GWB.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. Saving to thumbdrive.

[malaise]

31. We had a thread this morning - Jeb was with him

According to Alex the Twit on GEM$NBC, when a former President is in DC he calls on the sitting President. I never knew about that - and he took Jeb with him.

[madrchsod]

41. jeb is probably taking care of him when he travels

the old man is well..really old

[Vickers]

35. I wonder if Poppy threw up, or started crying.

That seems to be his thing.

[johnaries]

37. Unfortunately, we don't know what was said or even

what the meeting was about. I'll admit the timing is a little suspect, although it could have been about Haiti. WE just don't know. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall, though.

[Robb]

38. I would assume Haiti, timing-wise. nt

[xchrom]

39. If you're looking to create a bipartsan

Junction -- no better place to start than with the bushes.

[Riley18]

40. He was there for Jeb. He is his favorite. The old man basically said "You

scratch my back and I'll scratch yours." It was a deal with the devil to attempt to salvage the Bush legacy.

[Capn Sunshine]

47. He was pleading with Obama not to destroy the republican party

they will do it all by themselves.

Seriously , you clowns, it was about Haiti, where GHWB and Clinton have already been working together.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. Oh, Jeebus. Isn't there enough real shit for us to freak out about?

If Bush wanted to send some kind of spooky-dooky memo to Obama, he wouldn't need to do it in person, would he?

Oh, yeah, I guess he would, just like the New World Order™ can't make spooky deals in boardrooms, they need to do it while satan-worshipping,
dancing around naked at the Bohemian Grove.

I'm no fan of Poppy, but it's entirely conceivable that he might want to meet with Obama without it needing to be all sinister and shit. I'd imagine Babs gets on his nerves, maybe he just needs to get out once in a while.

[emilyg]

54. Nice to see common sense. Thank you.

[applegrove]

55. Could it be that the Bush family actually like Obama? They must be getting tired of being puppets to

the right.

[Bluebear]

58. 'They must be getting tired of being puppets to the right' - you really think this?

[applegrove]

60. You think that W wasn't the protestant, patrician, patsy the neocons said they wanted in the 1960s?

Someone they could control and who would implement all their policies. Didn't W do all that?

[dflprincess]

63. Junior might have been a puppet

but I think Poppy is much closer to being one of the puppet masters.

[applegrove]

64. Oh he didn't like voodoo economics. So he wasn't used to being a puppet and he rebelled.

They made him pay for that.

[hatesthegop]

59. Nice Post Ms. A

I didn't hear about this til I saw your post..I was on a plane for most of the day!!!

[flyarm]

66. ahhh his minder....takes him to the shed! eom

[fallingrock666]

67. the creepiness of inclusiveness

Larry King interviewing barack obama on:

KING: A couple of quick things, Senator. Would you, in your administration, make use of Bill Clinton?

OBAMA: Absolutely. I think that, you know, Bill Clinton is a brilliant statesman and politician, and I think that any president would want to use his skills and his relationships around the world.

By the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W. Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War. That cost us 20 billion dollars. That's all it cost. It was extremely successful. I think there were a lot of very wise people. So I want a bipartisan team that can help to provide me good advice and counsel when I'm president of the United States.

http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2008/03/reaching-out-to-george-hw-bush.html

[saracat]

68. Funny this bothers folks but continuous meetings with Billy Tauzin

resulting in pulling the Weyden Drug Re-importation doesn't bother anyone. Arne Duncan traveling with Newt Gingrich doesn't bother most either as he dismantles Public Education.Why is anyone surprised? Go figure."Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.":shrug: