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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:38 PM
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Robert Gates "relaxing" by watching movie about Pentagon coup d'etat and telling NYT about it.
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 06:29 PM by JackRiddler
The Pentagon's been planning a big escalation in Afghanistan and within Pakistan since well before the 2008 election. Obama's recent announcement, after much supposed debate in the cabinet, merely made the inevitable, official.

Robert Gates, the Secretary of "Defense" appointed by GW Bush, just took a trip to Pakistan, where he made clear that US strikes will be extended to new areas against the stated wishes of the supposedly allied Pakistani military. (See NY Times story, linked below.)

With unknown chaos and fallout likely to follow, Gates gets on his plane for the flight home and, as a Times author learns and tells us at the end of her dispatch, "His final message delivered, he relaxed on the 14-hour trip home by watching 'Seven Days in May,' the cold war-era film about an attempted military coup in the United States."

Now think about it. A SecDef travels all around the world. Has the NY Times ever before told you what movie he watched on his flight? This detail is not incidental color. It is a communicative act - probably sending a message from Gates to Obama, or perhaps from the reporter to us.

Plot of Seven Days In May (1962):
The fictional president is about to cut an arms deal with the Soviets, which the Republicans are calling treason. The Joint Chiefs conspire to carry out a coup d'etat under cover of a military exercise. The Good Officer, Kirk Douglas finds out and tries to stop the plot.

According to the film's producers, JFK was anxious to have it made and accommodated filming outside the White House, because he wanted greater awareness of how Pentagon warlords like Walker and LeMay were creating resistance to his policies. (JFK killed at Dallas in assassination widely recognized as a coup d'etat the next year.)

Robert Gates:
- Long-term high satrap of the Bush mob, on a level with Scowcroft or Baker.
- Hands all over the Iran-Contra complex, including planning for emergency rule and martial law contingencies with Oliver North's office and FEMA (Rex 84 exercise).
- Appointed by CIA's Bush Sr. to head the CIA.
- At Secretary of "Defense," the big holdover from the Bush Regime under Obama - was this a Pentagon condition?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/world/asia/24military.html?scp=2&sq=robert%20gates&st=cse



Pentagon Memo
Gates Sees Fallout From Troubled Ties With Pakistan

By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: January 23, 2010

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Nobody else in the Obama administration has been mired in Pakistan for as long as Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates...

“Are you with us or against us?” a senior military officer demanded of Mr. Gates at Pakistan’s National Defense University, according to a Pentagon official who recounted the remark made during a closed-door session after Mr. Gates gave a speech at the school on Friday. Mr. Gates, who could hardly miss that the officer was mimicking former President George W. Bush’s warning to nations harboring militants, simply replied, “Of course we’re with you.”

That was the essence of Mr. Gates’s message over two days to the Pakistanis, who are angry about the Central Intelligence Agency’s surge in missile strikes from drone aircraft on militants in Pakistan’s tribal areas, among other grievances, and showed no signs of feeling any love.

SNIP

As the No. 2 official at the C.I.A. in the 1980s, Mr. Gates helped channel Reagan-era covert aid and weapons through Pakistan’s spy agency to the American allies at the time: Islamic fundamentalists fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. Many of those fundamentalists regrouped as the Taliban, who gave sanctuary to Al Qaeda before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and now threaten Pakistan.

SNIP

But Mr. Gates perked up when he was brought some coffee, and he soon began to push back against General Abbas. American officials say that the real reason Pakistanis distinguish between the groups is that they are reluctant to go after those that they see as a future proxy against Indian interests in Afghanistan when the Americans leave. India is Pakistan’s archrival in the region. “Dividing these individual extremist groups into individual pockets if you will is in my view a mistaken way to look at the challenge we all face,” Mr. Gates said, then ticked off the collection on the border.

“Al Qaeda, the Taliban in Afghanistan, Tariki Taliban in Pakistan, Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Haqqani network — this is a syndicate of terrorists that work together,” he said. “And when one succeeds they all benefit, and they share ideas, they share planning. They don’t operationally coordinate their activities, as best I can tell. But they are in very close contact. They take inspiration from one another, they take ideas from one another.”


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His final message delivered, he relaxed on the 14-hour trip home by watching “Seven Days in May,” the cold war-era film about an attempted military coup in the United States.


Was Bumiller on the plane? I wonder if she got to watch the movie too.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:44 PM
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1. Thanks and rec
This reminds me of Air Force One buzzing the Statue of Liberty and then the story disappearing.

We spend too much on military by far; this is not in the best interests of the average citizen of the USA.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:45 PM
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2. It's a really good movie and a suspense filled novel...
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:49 PM
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3. Yes it is and I have both the book & the film on Dvd
Great plot and great acting.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:56 PM
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5. Yes, I should have added that the movie is really, really good.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:55 PM
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4. One purpose of fiction
is to remind us of what is possible.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 05:58 PM
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6. This was posted on DU a few weeks ago.
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 06:03 PM by pocoloco
Much info and links in it and Ray McGovern tells it like it is.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/29-8

James Douglas and his "JFK and the Unspeakable" is also mentioned in his article.
Subtitled "Why he Died and Why it Matters". Must reading to understand the pressure
that Obama has found himself under and perhaps the reason for some of his questionable
actions?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 06:11 PM
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8. Weeks? Gates's trip ended Jan 22. (I see, you mean McGovern's article.)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 06:10 PM
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7. Who do you think Bushie Satrap Gates (love that designation) was rooting for?
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 06:12 PM by tom_paine
If looks could kill I bet Kirk Douglas would have been slagged on the floor of the plane

Good catch. It does make one wonder, though we can only speculate and never fully know.

But, given the combination of The Don Poppy Bushleone (you inspired me with "satrap") and Sonny Jeb visiting with Obama today, it does raise a flag.

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 06:22 PM
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9. So many CIA people revolving into Defense jobs,
then Pentagon, then private sector.
Years and years and years of it.

Sheesh.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 06:53 PM
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10. Isn't it awful how our overlords take evidence of their evil and rub our noses in it?
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 06:54 PM by Bolo Boffin
Like when Silverstein gloated about pulling Building 7, or when Rumsfeld said a missile hit the Pentagon. Gates is laughing at all of us by watching this movie and letting us know he's watching this movie. Fucker.

/sarcasm
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:12 PM
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13. Misrepresentation, strawmen, false association, appeal to ridicule.
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 12:13 PM by JackRiddler
Insertion of your Pentagon missile nonsense, which I've never remotely espoused, especially transparent: avoid the claims in front of you, always resort to your favorite punching bags instead, try to derail thread topic over to those.

Thanks for the kick.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 07:42 PM
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11. Gate, appointed as Secretary of Defense by President Obama
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 07:43 PM by Thothmes
and confirmed by a Democratic Senate.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:49 AM
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12. Really?
Did they have another vote on confirming him in 2009, or was it enough that he was told to stay on? I can't find evidence on this. Maybe you know if there was actually a vote again?

At any rate, if your preference is for magic labels over the fact that the man heading the most powerful agency under Obama was appointed by Bush and is a long-term member of the Bush network, be my guest. Some people think it's all about teams and cheerleading, I guess.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 01:45 PM
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17. So, can you or someone help me with the question?
Was Gates re-confirmed by the Senate after Obama's inauguration?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:30 PM
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14. Keep your friends close and your enemies Secretary of Defense?
Keeping Gates is one of the president's biggest screw ups so far.

Whatever he's thinking, it's not a good reason.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:05 PM
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16. Screw-up to keep Gates? That's not what I'd call it.
It was either a capitulation to demands we'll never be privy to, or a half-assed and misguided way of making a preemptive concession to the hardline mentality - of lying down and presenting your stomach to the predator before it even barks. Or, most depressing alternative, it was Obama flying his real flag. Possibly all three.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 03:45 PM
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15. That Bumiller wrote this adds weight to your speculation.
She ranks up there with Judith Miller as a neocon mouthpiece.
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