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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:26 PM
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(NC) So Why Hasn’t the Credit Default Swaps Casino Been Shut Down?
From http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/03/so-why-hasnt-the-credit-default-swaps-casino-been-shut-down.html">Naked Capitalism:

Credit default swaps played a much more central role in the financial crisis than is widely understood, and they continue to get a free pass in financial reform proposals that they do not deserve. As we have discussed on this blog, and recount in more detail in the book ECONNED, central clearing and/or putting them on exchanges are inadequate remedies. . . .But perhaps more important, the idea that CDS have legitimate uses is questionable. They are used to hedge credit risk (sometimes) yet their pricing, per Bloomberg or any of the common commercial models, price CDS based on volatility, which is not based on any assessment of the underlying credit. So the idea that the pricing reflects default risk is spurious; indeed, CDS failed abysmally in predicting financial firm default risk during the crisis (Lehman was a particularly vivid illustration). But they serve to perpetuate the erosion of proper credit analysis (why bother if you can just lay off the risk?).

In the last two days, Gretchen Morgenson of the New York Times and Wolfgang Munchau of the Finacial Times have both launched salvos at CDS. Munchau’s is even more vituperative than Morgenson’s, which given the sober sensibilities of the Financial Times, suggests that opinion on the other side of the pond may be coalescing against the product. Morgenson points out that even Ben Bernanke has started to question the legitimacy of CDS, but peculiarly is not as hard on his remark as she should have been:

“Using these instruments in a way that intentionally destabilizes a company or a country is — is counterproductive, and I’m sure the S.E.C. will be looking into that.”

Yves here. Huh? How, pray tell, is the SEC, of all regulators, going to look into CDS? CDS are specifically exempt from SEC regulation. If anyone has (or could decide it has) jurisdiction, it’s the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Fed. So saying that swaps are a problem, and saying that someone who cannot possibly look into them will handle them, is just a fancy form of regulatory three card monte.

But perhaps more important, the idea that CDS have legitimate uses is questionable. They are used to hedge credit risk (sometimes) yet their pricing, per Bloomberg or any of the common commercial models, price CDS based on volatility, which is not based on any assessment of the underlying credit. So the idea that the pricing reflects default risk is spurious; indeed, CDS failed abysmally in predicting financial firm default risk during the crisis (Lehman was a particularly vivid illustration). But they serve to perpetuate the erosion of proper credit analysis (why bother if you can just lay off the risk?).

In the last two days, Gretchen Morgenson of the New York Times and Wolfgang Munchau of the Finacial Times have both launched salvos at CDS. Munchau’s is even more vituperative than Morgenson’s, which given the sober sensibilities of the Financial Times, suggests that opinion on the other side of the pond may be coalescing against the product.

Morgenson points out that even Ben Bernanke has started to question the legitimacy of CDS, but peculiarly is not as hard on his remark as she should have been:

“Using these instruments in a way that intentionally destabilizes a company or a country is — is counterproductive, and I’m sure the S.E.C. will be looking into that.”

Yves here. Huh? How, pray tell, is the SEC, of all regulators, going to look into CDS? CDS are specifically exempt from SEC regulation. If anyone has (or could decide it has) jurisdiction, it’s the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Fed. So saying that swaps are a problem, and saying that someone who cannot possibly look into them will handle them, is just a fancy form of regulatory three card monte.


Much, much more at the link. This was a difficult article to get a good sense of from the limited number of paragraphs I can repost. But go check it out. There's some technical jargon there, because all this stuff is ridiculously complex. But its very worth reading.

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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:28 PM
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1. K&R
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:18 PM
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2. You know why it hasn't: Washington only regulates that which it understands
This is why the derivatives casino is still open: no one can figure out what these things really are, including the people selling them.

Let's start with the biggest problem of all: mathematical modeling. Let's put a Gaussian copula up in Excel, throw a few mortgages into it and presto! We get the exact amount of risk inherent in the transaction! (Leaving out the part about them modeling unmodelable risk--people lose their jobs and get kicked out of their homes, they move, houses catch fire...)
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 02:54 PM
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3. Morning up
Like morning wood... only for forums and... not gross.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 02:58 PM
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4. Americans are content to blame poor people for wanting homes
While ignoring that the crisis had nothing to do with that, and everything to do with what the banks did after getting the banks.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 02:59 PM
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5. Good question.
K&R
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:01 PM
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6. Because the Senate has been so gridlocked on healthcare
that they are unable to take on any other meaningful legislation.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:32 PM
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7. Ever wonder if that isn't by design? While HC dominates news, Congress eviscerate financial reform.
To the point where it is effectively meaningless... and they are setting up the same bubbles that brought us this collapse... so that ten years from now or something our children can face another, deeper financial implosion based on the idiotic greed and recklessness of our country and our complicit politicians.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:52 PM
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8. I think you give congress too much credit.
I just think they can't walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.
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