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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:19 AM
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Unemployment insurance is OUR MONEY!
Anyone who is currently collecting unemployment was employed at one time. Part of our paychecks went to pay into unemployment insurance. So where do these asswipes, Bunning & Kyl, get off trying to deny the unemployed WHAT WE PAID INTO?! That money is there for us for when we need it. And we need it NOW!
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:21 AM
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1. Ummmmmm
I'm not sure that it works like that. I think the employer pays it. But still, it's money designed to help people without a job. How anyone thinks cutting it off solves a problem is beyond me...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:29 AM
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4. you are correct
And I'm pretty sure that when unemployment hits the levels we currently have, the money paid in (which is capped) doesn't cover the benefits.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:32 AM
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6. The employer does pay it, but it's listed as employer contributions
for each employee. My Dh's weekly check info shows how much is paid for SUTA and FUTA weekly on his behalf.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 06:46 AM
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13. It indeed does come out of our labor money
Edited on Wed Mar-03-10 06:47 AM by Dragonfli
as do all other deductions. Such things are part of the pay.
with no deductions, we would be taking home more.

I think what you are trying to say is the employers "match" it, about half I believe at the time it is used. Something they take also into account when deciding wages and laying off people.

It all comes from labor money for the labor we sell to others.

Get it?


I had to stop H.I. deductions when I could no longer afford health as well as food. My employer didn't get the extra without that deduction, I did.

Deductions are part of what you earn dude, you should know that, it is pretty basic stuff.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:22 AM
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2. That money went to military contractors in Iraq.
Corporations in total control now. So we're shit outta luck. Got it?

:puke:












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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:27 AM
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3. Damn straight. n/t
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:31 AM
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5. Good point. The media should make sure people realize this.
When Jim Bunning says he won't vote for it unless it's paid for, they should point out that it IS paid for through unemployment insurance. (Are they mentioning that? I don't watch the MSM much anymore.)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:35 AM
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7. actually, the point is that there isn't enough money paid in to cover UI
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 11:38 AM by onenote
federal unemployment benefits are funded by a tax (FUTA) paid by employers. The amount of that tax is capped and reflects certain assumptions about the level of unemployment and the length of time during which benefits will be paid. At times of persistent, high unemployment, the amount paid in falls short of being able to cover the UI benefits. Historically, when that happens, Congress extends the benefits. While that technically increases the deficit, it is generally acknowledged that it is better for the overall economy for people to be getting (and spending) UI than not.

Total annual FUTA payment: $434 per employee; (after credits for payment to state UI programs, it can be much lower, as little as $56 per employee/year).
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 01:24 AM
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8. Depending on where you live
It can be very expensive... up to a couple of thousand dollars a year per employee depending on how long you've been in business and how many claims have been made. So a business with 50 employees that is struggling and forced to let employees go may find they have to lay off additional employees when the state jacks up their "experience rating". It's a vicious circle.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 06:33 AM
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12. So Since I worked 25 years without a claim, Now that I need it your 'math' doesn't count it?
Sounds like the new "corporate overlord" type of math to me, Most people I am guessing have similarly gone long periods without a claim and the math resets them to zero as well I suppose?

Please take your rationalizations to a politician, they like math like that, unless we are talking corporate holdings of course, they can burn it or gamble it away and we will just replace it for them and switch them to zero debt. I see how you balance it now I guess, I just don't wish to pretend such math is real, I was taught to do math the old fashioned way.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 01:26 AM
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9. A Republican with true balls would be on the tv asking 'Where Are The Jobs?'
They're all fucking complicit!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 06:25 AM
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10. what's left of our money.. >Link>>
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woIkIph5xcU

GOP is a Cargo Cult of OCD Wealth Hoarders, they believe that wealth is the Measure of gODs favor of a man, therefore it is a sin to tax a Rich Man/Corporation. the poor are being punished by gOD, therefore it is a sin to help them.

we need to spread this message and reveal the truth to the people they've conned into supporting this insanity. they think anything they do to horde more wealth is ordained by gOD, anyone they hurt deserves it..

these are the people who have taken over the GOP, Palin is one of them



http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html
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LiberalPC Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 06:29 AM
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11. YES!!!!!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:41 AM
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14. All I know is OUR money pays for these bums health insurance. Bunning needs to drop it and
experience some "tough shit."
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:47 AM
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15. they vote over and over again for War Money and don't worry about pay as you go
and then they hold up helping our own citizens who are in need.

heartless bunch of shits.
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