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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:40 PM
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Utah legislator who wants to criminalize miscarriages is a Glenn Beck '912er' and Tea Party fan
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/utah-legislator-who-wants-criminaliz (for video)

Utah legislator who wants to criminalize miscarriages is a Glenn Beck '912er' and Tea Party fan
By David Neiwert Tuesday Mar 02, 2010 11:00am

Nicole already weighed in on that mind-blowing piece of legislation about to become law in Utah that would make pregnant women criminally liable for "reckless behavior" that results in a miscarriage.

The man behind the law, Utah Republican legislator Carl Wimmer, appeared on CNN yesterday to defend his bill, which he claims will only be usable in the worst of circumstances.

Right. He never does explain why it treats women as presumptive criminals, and expands the definition of "illegal abortion" to include miscarriages. Nor does he explain why 93 percent of the women in Utah don't have legal abortions available within their home counties.

But that's par for the course. You see, Carl Wimmer isn't just your run-of-the-mill Utah Republican (see, e.g., Orrin Hatch). He's a flaming Tea Party fan (as his Facebook testimonial makes clear: "I am involved in the Tea Party and 912 movements."

He's not just involved in Glenn Beck's "912" teabagging movement -- he made an appearance on Beck's special "town hall" show last May promoting not just the "912ers," but Beck's wholesale embrace of the "Tenther" theories from the militia movement of the '90s.

Ironically, here's what Wimmer ranted about back then:

Wimmer: The Patrick Henry Caucus, we formed it in Utah, and the way I look at it is, it brings teeth to what the 912ers are doing. I'm a 912er. And the citizens are frustrated. The citizens are sick and tired of liberties and freedoms being destroyed, all the time. And the government doing it.

So what I decided to do, I'm sick of it, I know some of my fellow legislators were sick of it, and I know there's other legislators around the country who are sick of it. So I decided to form the Patrick Henry Caucus, which is state legislators from throughout the country who are going to unify and join together to push forward the agenda that the 912 group supports, and we're gonna do this together. The citizens can't do it together -- they can write letters, and they can organize. But they need the lawmakers, who can help repeal some of these laws, and fight back against a tyrannical federal government.

I dunno about you, but "freedoms being destroyed" and "tyrannical" seem to me like pretty apt descriptions for laws that invade women's wombs. Just sayin'.

None of this is particularly surprising. But it's interesting to see how Glenn Beck's version of "freedom" plays out on the ground when his minions put into action, isn't it?

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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:48 PM
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1. Since 1/3 pregnancies end naturally in miscarriages...
that's a whole lot of potential criminals walking around.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:49 PM
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2. Beckism is Radical Mormonism. n/t
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:53 PM
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3. You just need to realize
that they believe women should have no rights. Then it all makes sense.

:crazy:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:55 PM
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4. Need to redefine miscarriage as a male that loves Glenn Beck.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:15 PM
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5. Where do these mushrooms get these wild ass ideas?
I guess like the real kind of mushrooms you feed em enough shit and the fungus grows.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:17 PM
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6. Sure, let's clog the criminal justice system with more cases. That won't cost any taxpayer money.
:eyes:
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:34 AM
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7. Just what we need! Pregnancy police! Just think of all the new jobs!
My former OB said as many as one to TWO THIRDS of pregnancies end in miscarriage. You know this will be used to get women in trouble they don't like: people with brown skin, the incarcerated, liberals, non-Christians...etc.

I cannot believe this is even a consideration.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 09:56 AM
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8. "...I am involved in the Tea Party and 912 movements."
"912 movements?" Man, that's a lot of prune juice!
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