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Tue Mar-02-10 04:38 PM
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Rumors circulating of deal struck with Bunning to be announced this evening |
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Bunning gets a separate vote on his pay go issue and the extensions pass.
Of course, its Bunning so nothing is certain until ten minutes after it happens
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:40 PM
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1. America has to kiss his ass? Is that how the game is played? |
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This unstable piece of crap should be ridden out of DC on a rail.
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:45 PM
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9. do you want the benefits started back up as soon as possible? |
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 04:48 PM by onenote
If as rumored, this deal restores benefits etc more quickly than could be done by going the "cloture" route on either the short term bill or the long term extenders in the jobs 2 bill.
THe way it has been described to me, it sounds like Bunning is the one caving in by accepting a separate vote when previously he refused that approach.
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:41 PM
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2. I know it's a rumor, but will wait for more details. |
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Why would he need a separate vote? for what?
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:43 PM
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6. I think it will on a propsal to divert stimulus money to pay for the extension of benefits |
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:41 PM
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3. Not another secret White House meeting!!! |
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:47 PM
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11. no reason to think the white house is involved |
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haven't heard that they are. can't say that they aren't
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:42 PM
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4. Why are Democrats 'dealing' with members of a dead party? |
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:49 PM
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13. They are breathing a lot of life into that "dead" party. |
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 04:49 PM by Better Believe It
While the Democrats appear to be weak and unable to run Congress and govern.
One Republican Senator dictates his demands to 58 Democratic Senators and they capitulate.
One Republican Senator holds up Senate business because Democrats permit him to.
It's time for more bi-partisanship!
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:42 PM
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5. I'm shocked that the script moves forward! |
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:43 PM
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7. Bunning and his pay go can start by firing his staff, give up his pension, forego his pay and |
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insurance coverage. Then quit. That's a start.
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:45 PM
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8. So the Republicans in Congress now take the American people fukkin HOSTAGE ? |
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NO NO NO NO NO. Stop that shit right now.
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:46 PM
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10. so what would you propose as a way to break the logjam and get benefits restored? |
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:48 PM
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12. You restore it with his help then you BUST HIS ASS, break the "deal" and |
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tell the mf'rer that you you don;t negotiate with terrorists. If cutting off funds to we the dammned people is now leverage in a game, stop the game.
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:14 PM
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20. uhh. the deal is, as I understand it, is that he will agree to a separate vote on his approach |
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which he will lose. What exactly is there left to bust?
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:53 PM
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14. That's simple enough. Run the Senate and make the Republicans filibuster! |
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What a novel idea that is.
And one doesn't even have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out!
I bet a lot of people are asking why the Democrats appear to be suffering from paralysis and unable to govern and lead the nation.
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:05 PM
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19. Maybe keep hammering away at him, maybe as concerted effort, all |
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the Dems keep saying what shit this is he's pulling...you need to yell and scream so that the media picks it up...embarass the phuck out of him.
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:55 PM
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15. The Democrats, suffering from a major case of political paralysis, let them! |
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The time to stop that was when the newly elected Congress convened over a year ago.
Instead it seems to get worse month after month.
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:57 PM
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16. FLASHBACK: Bunning Backed Extending Unemployment Benefits That Weren’t Paid For In 2003 |
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Tue Mar-02-10 04:58 PM
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17. ......And they'll buy 10,000 autographed baseballs |
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VOTE FOR CLOTURE ALREADY!! Make these miserable republicans vote so they can stop using this old fart as a scapegoat for their moral-less party politics at the cost of the needy.
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:01 PM
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18. Here's the deal, Bunning. Resign tonight, so we can pass this thing, |
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and we won't disclose that little pecadillo a few years ago with that intern. I was talking to her this morning, and she's on unemployment, but it's running out. She said she'd be glad to fly up for a press conference with her (and your) child. How's that sound to you, asshole? Sound pretty does, does it?
Here, I took the liberty of having your resignation typed up for you. Sign here, dicknose.
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:17 PM
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21. Strike a deal with crazy! That'll work. nt |
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:19 PM
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22. latest update: no deal with Bunning -- forced all night session |
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Apparently the Democrats decided against the compromise that would have required separate votes. The idea now is to make Bunning stay up all night objecting over and over and over.
From ROll Call:
Democrats are hoping to turn the procedural tables on Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) and use Senate rules to break his blockade against an extension of unemployment insurance, including possibly forcing a round-the-clock session.
Newly energized Democrats, who believe they have gained the political upper hand thanks to Bunning’s one-man crusade against the short-term benefits extension, rejected outright a Republican proposal to allow three votes on pay-fors for the bill before a vote on final passage. Bunning has demanded the measure, which would run for one month at a cost of $10 billion, be paid for.
“We’re not having four votes,” Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday following a weekly Conference luncheon in which Democrats rejected the GOP offer. Although Reid and his colleagues are willing to allow one vote on a pay-for — the original agreement Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) cut last week — they see no reason to go further in mollifying Bunning.
Although no final decisions have been made, Democrats confirmed it is increasingly likely that Democrats will force Bunning into an actual filibuster of unemployment insurance extension Tuesday night by repeatedly offering up unanimous consent agreements to bring the bill to a vote.
Although Members often threaten actual filibusters, they rarely materialize. Instead, lawmakers tend to rely on “Cadillac filibusters,” essentially stalling procedures that can be used to block legislation without having to actually stay put on the Senate floor.
Democrats on Tuesday signaled they have the resolve to remain in session throughout the night to force Bunning to abandon his cause. The American people “want an end to these games. And I hope that today we’ll see the end. If we don’t, we’re going to have to have a long, long night ahead of us to make the point that it’s wrong for one Senator to stop our people, our American people, from getting the help they deserve,” Environment and Public Works Chairman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) said Tuesday.
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:38 PM
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23. if he does stay up all night.... |
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by morning he won`t know where he is...the guy is`t mentally capable of coherent thought when he is tired
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:01 PM
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 07:02 PM by onenote
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:45 PM
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24. Sorry, folks. I can see the wisdom making a deal with Bunning. |
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Like he cuts out the bullshit and we agree not to pour salt into the cuts on his back after the flogging.
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:02 PM
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26. so now it looks like they're back to a deal similar to the one rumored earlier this afternoon |
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Bunning caves in by allowing the bill to go through after a vote to fund it out of stimulus money which will be defeated. He gets to offer some amendments to the jobs 2 package which has the long term extenders and which should be on the floor later this week or next. Not sure what the deal is on those amendments.
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