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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:04 PM
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Say one thing for the Chileans
They don't put up with shite. You don't deliver goods they need after a devastating earthquake and tsunami and they just help themselves. No food, no water and they clean out the stores.
I agree with everyone who helped themselves to food and water particularly in areas where no help has arrived as yet.
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Chakab Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:08 PM
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1. So you condone "looting"
and consider it to be a justified act of self-sufficiency?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:11 PM
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2. It's not looting when your home has been destroyed
you have no food and your family is starving. Go ask the birds and other animals - it's basic survival instincts kicking in.
Perhaps you might ask whether it's murder/suicide not to seek food and water for you and your children.
Sorry after a major natural disaster there is nothing called looting food or water.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:15 PM
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3. "looting" is in the eye of the beholder
When the survivors of a major disaster start grabbing big-screen TV's then let's talk about "looting".

If it's food or water, then yes, it's a justified act.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:22 PM
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6. Exactly
While there have been some instances of looting in Chile - breaking into ATMs, banks, electronics retailers, etc - the vast majority of the activity is people taking food and drink necessary to their survival. I won't condemn anyone for trying to survive, unless it is done at the expense of someone else who is also just trying to survive.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:42 PM
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11. I support helping yourself to food and drink
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 08:45 PM by malaise
During the post- earthquake rescues in Haiti I asked whether those who had survived in supermarkets or markets should have been arrested for looting since they only survived for that length of time because they had access to food and drink. The guy at the hotel shop who survived off coke and biscuits should be in jail now.

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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:37 PM
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7. Agreed. If it's food, water, the essentials, it's not looting. If it's TV's, it is looting. n/t
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:44 PM
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13. +1
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:48 PM
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14. Lawrence O'Donnell is showing this now
Where the fugg will people find food after an earthquake and a tsunami if not in stores that weren't destroyed. Why should they and their families starve.
I am convinced that no government can handle a massive disaster properly for at least two to three days. During that time, people will take food and water where they find it.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:50 PM
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15. I might even understand taking non-essentials like TVs if things are really bad
because if you can't find food or water, you can use stuff like that to trade for it. When government help is slow, I don't blame people for doing what they have to do in order to keep themselves and their kids alive.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:38 PM
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8. That simple
:hi:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:16 PM
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4. Aren't you cuuute?
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:20 PM
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5. Can't say I wouldn't do the same thing
Catastrophic events lead to desperate measures. If my child was in need, I would opt for self-help...until the rule of law offered an orderly alternative.

I don't consider this acting reasonably. It's instinctive.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:39 PM
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9. Absolutely correct
Someone needs to remind some folks that instinct predates capitalism.
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aungsungsuchi2 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:40 PM
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10. i was kind of thinking the same thing today...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:44 PM
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12. Chileans have learned a lot of political lessons
One of them is looking after themselves when there is government inaction.
I saw people on balconies throwing foodstuffs for people in need. I say Bravo!!!
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 09:28 PM
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16. I have no problems with Chileans taking food from Walmart


Was watching Chilean TV online on Sunday. There was footage of people taking boxes of Soprole-brand milk for infants and children, food, toilet paper and other stuff from a supermarket named LIDER.

The LIDER chain of supermarkets and other businesses is controlled by Walmart of the United States and had 2007 net revenues in excess of US$3.8 billion, D&S has more than 180 stores, 10 shopping centers and 85 PRESTO financial services branches.

http://walmartstores.com/AboutUs/8935.aspx




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