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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:47 PM
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Self defense moves saved woman attacked by killer of Chelsea King. Learn how to save yourself!

A body has been found that's believed to be Chelsea King, the missing teen abducted while jogging in Rancho Bernardo. A convicted sex offender is being charged with her rape and murder.

It turns out that this same sicko (a huge brute of a man)attacked another woman in the same park in December.

How did she avoid the same fate as Chelsea King?

The first victim knew self-defense--and used it to elbow this sicko in the nose and escape with her life. Please read this story, and pass it on to every woman and teen girl you know. I wrote the story. I used self-defense myself once years ago to escape a man who grabbed me on a dark street in Sacramento.

The story has examples of simple self-defense tactics that can save your life--as well as links to videos and websites with more details:

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/2855

Incidentally, the same pervert who apparently killed Chelsea King and did time for molesting a 13-year-old is also now suspected in the disappearance of Amber Dubois, the Escondido teenager missing for more than a year.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:51 PM
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1. Amen! Many rape crisis centers organize self defense classes. n/t
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:56 PM
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2. I would love to see a program where they teach mandatory Martial Arts to
girls in school. I realize that this probably has a snowballs chance in hell of ever happening, but it sure is something that might save many lives.
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Chalco Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:47 AM
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13. Excellent idea! nt
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 11:23 PM
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20. mayby not, then you may end up with people trying to fight instead of running
kinda the best thing to do is shout fire, but even the best trained martial artist is going to lose a percentage of street fights, best thing is mayby a taser if it can be deployed as it will stop anybody, then probuably a large caliber weapon..
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:10 AM
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3. BITE. HARD.
On anything you can get your teeth on. In fact, offer oral sex and BITE.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:13 AM
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4. +1 on kicking rapist ass!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:22 AM
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5. Indeed...more effective than carrying a gun, too.
I think people vastly overrate guns as a self-defense tool. They have their place, but in a surprise assault physical skills will often serve someone better than a weapon can. I also speak from experience.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 01:27 AM
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10. Ooh, don't let the gungeon crowd hear you say that
Here's their idea of how women should defend themselves:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=294965&mesg_id=294965

Yep, if you don't have a gun, your only option is to cower and take it. :eyes:

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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 11:57 AM
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14. I'd just tell 'em, if Jesus had a gun,

he wouldn't have been crucified, pilgrim.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:19 PM
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17. Thank you for that common sense post.
Let me first say that I'm an advocate of gun rights (I even believe in the right to own guns further than they are now, like automatic assault rifles, less restrictions).

However, if you have a gun, you better be prepared to use it. That is, if you even get it out. A surprise assault is just not going to give you enough time to open your holster, pull out your gun, turn the safety off, and squeeze a few rounds off. It's just not possible, most of the time. Yeah, if you're dealing with an armed robber who is clumsy, and never even takes his gun out in the first place / doesn't know how to operate it, you MIGHT get lucky - key word is might.

These "guns for all situations!" people only think about home invasions, where burglars are clumsy and make alot of noise - tons of time to confront them. A gun can sometimes do nothing, or even hurt the person (killed with their own gun) who is surprise attacked in situations like this.

Physical self-defense in melee-distance situations where the other person is unarmed is an effective tool for escaping, where as using a gun is often impractical.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:23 AM
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6. K&R
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:30 AM
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7. Did someone say self defense ?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:34 AM
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8. it has been my belief for many years now that, barring a serious adjustment in attitudes about rape,
one thing that might put a dent in the numbers would be for every female to be a black belt in multiple martial arts. that way, any man who wanted to rape would face the likelihood of getting the s*** beat out of him.

but, in patriarchy,a system that essentially treats women as chattel, women are not taught to defend themselves, not taught that they have a right to defend themselves. they are taught not to get angry, they are taught to be helpless--they are taught to be afraid.

Holly Near's song "Fight Back" sums it up pretty well

By day I live in terror
At night I live in fright
For as long as I can remember
a lady can't go out alone at night.
. . . . .

Some folks have the answer
they buy a lock and they live in a cave
but my fear is turning to anger
and my anger is turning to rage
I won't live my life in a cage.

So we've got to fight back
in large numbers
fight back, I can't make it alone
fight back, in large numbers
and together we can make a safe home.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:56 AM
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9. The nose is definitely the prefered target of choice for self defence.
The classical knee to the balls is actually one of the worst choices. Yes it will incapacitate IF it connects correctly. However, there are only a limited number of ways to attack that target, and it only takes a slight turn of the hips to negate.

For the nose, there is a much wider range of options and directions to attack from, it is considerably harder to protect, and temporarily blinds the attacker.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 05:37 PM
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18. Also the eyes. Throw sand or coins in them, jab with keys, anything.
Small of the throat is another very sensitive spot.

Wearing heels? Jab down on his instep. Kick him in the shins.

Got keys? Carry 'em between each finger as a makeshift brass knuckle, only sharper.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 03:50 AM
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11. first step is get mad rather than afraid.
Edited on Wed Mar-03-10 03:52 AM by uppityperson
Fear can paralyse you, make you go along, where anger can enpower you enough to fight back.

Then, don't try to pull away but get closer suddenly and hit/etc. And be loud.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 03:57 AM
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12. Every girl and woman should take self-defense classes from an early age, agreed.
Edited on Wed Mar-03-10 04:00 AM by Withywindle
And it's not just about physically fighting, as important as that is. It should also be about general alertness, and also VERY INTENSE counteraction to the meme all girls are raised with, that we should always be nice and polite and never risk angering anyone or hurting anyone's feelings.

TO THE GOOD MEN OUT THERE WHO WILL PIPE UP AND SAY 'BUT I'M NOT LIKE THAT': Well, I should hope not. But the fact is, women cannot afford to give you the benefit of the doubt, because the potential consequences of erring on the side of generosity for us are SO HIGH. OK, odds are any random man we see passing us on the street or sitting next to us on the bus or the bar and trying to chat us up probably won't rape or kill us. But the stakes of those crimes are high enough that we don't owe it to you to take the fucking chance, alright? If it bothers you that women give you the cold shoulder out of fear? Take it up with OTHER MEN, which is why we feel the need to be self-protective. DO NOT question our perfectly natural and commonsical desire to look out for our own safety.
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:01 PM
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15. Don't forget the eyes and balls
When your life is in danger, nothing is off-limits.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 12:07 PM
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16. K&R for getting women info on self-defense.
n/t
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 11:18 PM
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19. Never been there done that...
...and by the grace of whatever gods there may be, I never will...
BUT:

I've been told by self-defense instructors that one must NOT be reluctant to cause damage to one's attacker.
HE sure as hell isn't showing any consideration for YOU...you owe him no courtesy whatever.

FIGHT DIRTY*...thumbs in the eyes, clapping the ears, jab in the windpipe...whatever it takes.
The object of the game is YOU SURVIVE.

*...and always use an equalizer.
ANYTHING that extends your reach and/or adds weight to your hand (read 'punch') can be a weapon.
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