The Current Senate Health Care Bill

[truedelphi]

Is such a completely awful, loathsome piece of maggot-infested
and rotting give aways to the Big Insurers, that it is almost as if it was written by the Big Insurers themselves.

Oh, wait a minute, it was!

It now includes not the original 2% of a person's annual wages as penalties, but a 2.5% seizure of one's wages. Curiously that figure will totally pay for the One Hundred and Sixty Eight Billion dollars for the expansion of the Two Wars, as the Senate voted in its budget hearings during mid-December.

And that One Hundred and Sixty Eight Billion bucks worth of penalties will come about in only six years - 2013 to 2019, if I remember my reading of the pertinent passages.

Nowhere in the bill is there any relief for those who are penalized by Big Insurers because of pre-existing conditions.

And of course, if this bill is passed, don't be expecting any type of roll backs on the 29 to 74% increases that many households have noted in terms of their insurance premiums over the last two to three years. (In fact Anthem was busy sending out its 29 to 74% increases just in the last three weeks.)

Nor is there any set of regulations and stipulations as what we can expect for our paying the big insurers our 15 to 20 percent of our paychecks.

Back when paying for health care for myself and my spouse, we paid an amount equal to our rent - $ 957 a month for insurance, $ 1,000 a month for rent. Did that prevent Kaiser Permanente from mis-diagnosing my spouse and causing him to suffer with temporary blindness for six months?

Nope, it didn't.

Did it prevent the same HMO from stalling me on needed treatments, and when they finally gave in and said, "You do need treatment," the treatments prescribed were totally bogus.

Many on this board, will be saying, "Not my concern - the employer will be paying my premiums." Well, think again - if the employer cannot afford your health care, you may be reduced to part time, and find out that once working fewer than 20 or 25 hours a week, you are no longer covered.

But hey, at least Obama did not grandstand for a position he held earlier - that Universal Single Payer Health Care for all was the only logical response to the broken Health Care System.

And thank goodness for that, because boy I tell you, I would sure hate to wake up sometime soon to find out I was living in a socialistic empire driven by the needs of its parasitic citizenry!

[New Dawn]

1. K&R - FUCK the Fascist "Individual Mandate"!

[SlingBlade]

2. Yep. These fuckers should be ashamed to call themselves

Democrats.

Pieces of shit one and all !

K & R

[leftstreet]

3. K&R

[geckosfeet]

4. If your employer provides your insurance now, you proibably have co-pays

for every bit of medical care as well as prescriptions and devices.

If your employer provides insurance now, consider what happens when your employer goes out of business. Or you lose your job due to "right-sizing", or rates increase to the point where your employer doubles or triples your employee contribution.

I have been wondering why, during this year long lobbying effort by the health insurance companies, that some kind of employers organization did not form and begin lobbying for complete, unambiguous universal health care for every person in the land. The corporate world would free themselves of the burden of paying protection money to the health insurance companies, except in rare cases where they wanted or needed to provide extra coverage for specific jobs (police, hazardous occupation, critical skills etc.).

[truedelphi]

8. I think the big corporations have already off shored

The jobs in many cases.

And the mid sized companies are so busy trying just to survive these days that they didn't have the time or energy.

It's hard to do the time-consuming political stuff if you are trying to make payroll.

[amborin]

5. Recommend! they're making a bad bill even worse, if that's possible. n/t

[twitomy]

6. This bill is a Republican payout to the big insurers...

Oh, wait.....

[Hell Hath No Fury]

7. This is gonna suck so hard.

:cry: Fuck'em all for doing this to us.