Popular drink products made in China

[OhioChick]

CLEVELAND - You probably remember the scare concerning tainted Chinese food and pet food in the past few years. Even though there are more regulations in place, food from China is still on store shelves.

Warren McDonald wants his young children to eat and drink healthy food. So he and his wife try to buy them 100 percent juice like Juicy Juice made by Nestle. McDonald said he was surprised recently when he looked on the side of the container. When he looked at the side of the jug, he was stunned. "It was only when I held it up to the light I saw it said 'product of China.'"

Juicy Juice juice boxes also have 'product of China' printed on the label.

Russell Beirsdorfer runs a small family-owned orchard, and said the cost of harvesting and processing apple juice for small containers means his would have to cost twice the price of Juicy Juice. That's why he sells jugs of juice only.

He said America's demand for low prices on just about everything, means companies need to find cheaper ways to produce it. Therefore, products are made in China, where manufacturing costs are a lot less.

Nestle defends its use of Chinese apples, saying, "We audit these facilities" and the juice is "processed in the U.S."

But with so many Chinese food scares in recent years, McDonald worries about what those apples may have been sprayed with. "I'm just concerned about the quality from China, and do they have the same restrictions and regulations the U.S. does?"

Nestle and other juice producers say the answer to that question is yes. Even so, McDonald said he plans to read labels more closely and will try to support local growers.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/money/consumer/read-food-labels-carefully

[geardaddy]

1. Nestlé is evil

I try not to buy anything from them.

[DCKit]

32. One of the worst. Right up there with Coke and MonSatan. n/t

[catgirl]

The FDA recently scolded Nestle...

for misleading product information. I don't trust that company. I make tollhouse cookies, but
with different chocolate.

[amborin]

2. thanks for the heads up!

so many products are made there; nowadays i really scrutinize the labels

[sasquuatch55]

102. Notice Walmart store brand food only says distributed by WM,Bentonville! Probably all imports.

I bought a cake(a cake!)from the WM bakery that was made in Mexico, and I live in NY.

[tridim]

3. Why the hell would Nestle use Chinese grown apples processed in the US?

There is no way shipping an apple from China costs less than simply growing it here. We're not talking about cars here.

[amborin]

6. cheaper

as it is, apples grown in the U.S. are deteriorating in quality due to industrial ag

when was the last time you saw jonathans in the stores?

we're heading toward an apple mono-culture

[notadmblnd]

9. I live in michigan, there's hundres of apple orchards here

with dozens of varieties. I don't see the apple as deteriorating in quality.

[amborin]

13. you're lucky; in supermarkets, it's veering toward mono-culture

many, many varieties no longer available

such as cortlands, jonathans, etc...

[paulsby]

63. WA apples are great

except everybody here eats these damn sweet apples.

i grew up eating nice crisp tart fall mcintoshes in new england

still my favorite

[JDPriestly]

79. Your apples don't make it out to our supermarkets in California.

At least, they don't make it to the low-priced markets in my neighborhood.

[Romulox]

118. They don't make it to supermarkets in Dearborn, Michigan--you have to go to a speciality shop

or out to the country to get them...

[AlecBGreen]

85. michigan has an embarrassment of riches

I went up last summer to EGR to visit family and was stunned at all the beautiful produce. Apples, pears, cherries, blueberries (!!), rasp & blackberries... Yall are blessed beyond belief! Oh man im drooling now just thinking about it. I bought 2 quarts of blueberries for like $7 and made a couple pies.

[notadmblnd]

97. I'm a sucker for the cherries

I just moved and the only thing I'm going to miss about my old home is the cherry tree that was right outside my front door. Of course I had to place my self strategically during cherry season to beat the squirrels and raccoons to them.

[knitter4democracy]

131. We're second in the nation in growing produce.

I go to the farms to get it, though some farm markets in the area are good. We have the best produce in the world, in my not-so-humble opinion. :)

[fasttense]

98. The Chinese have forced out of business most of the American small orchards.

Yes, in some states you still have a few large orchards but the independent growers of fruit have been mostly forced out of business due to the cheap prices in China.

Now, that China has most of the US market they are raising the price of their fruit because they now have a virtual monopoly.

Because of these increased prices of Chinese goods and cost of transportation, a few American growers are starting to come back. Let's hope they didn't all cut down their fruit trees.

[Romulox]

117. I live in Michigan, too. Kroger carries one variety of overisized, mealy, and BLAND red delicious

Not a thing from any local orchards, either.

[notadmblnd]

128. Red Delicious are pretty bland. Meijers always has a good variety

and we go out to Spicer's Orchard at least once in the fall, that's a u pick. I can guarantee you find what you're looking for there.

[Romulox]

136. Happened to eat (half) of a Washington State Granny Smith purchased at Meijers today

(Ate it today, that is.) Also bland. Blech. I have no idea what happened to the real Granny Smiths from New Zealand, but I haven't been able to get them in years.

"and we go out to Spicer's Orchard at least once in the fall, that's a u pick."

I have a couple of local markets that are better than Meijer or Kroger (Westborn market is the main one.) I haven't been the to the cider mill in ages--when I was a kid they still let you go up the ladders to pick. Nowadays it seems most places just have dwarf trees for the u pick stuff. I'd rather just purchase a pre-picked peck and have some donuts and cider. :)

[notadmblnd]

140. cider mills and apple orchards are two different things.

I like to go to Yates cider mill in Rochester, you can walk the trails but they don't let you pick. there's another cider mill in Lake Orion, also good. Then there's an orchard out near Shelby that we go to (I want to say it's Westfield orchard but I'm not certain of the name), where you can take the kids and they have all sorts of activities, petting zoo, corn maze in the fall along with a store where you can buy apple butter, pies donuts, cider. It's a lot like Spicers. I've been out to Spicers, the kids still climb the trees. I think maybe they look dwarf because we've gotten bigger. Even the apple trees in my yard that have been there 50 years aren't real tall, I'd say 20ft the max. I still think the apples are good.

[MineralMan]

10. You must be in the wrong place. In season, we have dozens of varieties

of fresh apples in every supermarket. They're spectacular, and almost all are grown here in Minnesota. It's apple heaven here.

[amborin]

15. there are about 10 or so varieties

in the major California supermarket chains

but there is a trend toward mono culture

many varieties gone

jonathans, cortlands, romes, pippins, etc....

[MineralMan]

24. They have all of those varieties in our markets, along with

one or two new ones every year. California is not much of an apple-growing state, and there are limited supplies of some varieties. Apples are enormously popular in the upper midwest, I know, and most of the varieties sell out right here. There just isn't enough supply to ship them to California.

I think, at the peak of apple season, I counted 16 varieties at my local supermarket. A third of the produce department was apples. We love our apples in Minnesota. There are several apple farms within a 30 minute drive of my Saint Paul house, each with a thriving business at the farm, selling apples and apple products made from the apples grown on that farm. If you like, you can even go out and pick your own right off the tree. Now, those are fresh apples. But, the ones in the farm store were picked the day before, so they're just about as good.

Bet you haven't eaten a Honey Crisp yet. Dynamite eating apple, developed at the U. of Minnesota a few years ago, and now on the market here. We eat them all, right in MN. You can't have any. This year, another excellent new eating variety made its first appearance here. You had to go to the farm to get them, though, since this is the first year they've been available, and only in tiny quantities. I didn't get any, though, and can't remember the new variety's name.

Like pie baking? You can buy several different varieties of baking apples here.

California sucks for produce not grown in the state. Of course, there's lots of CA produce. The strawberries here just don't stand up against CA strawberries.

[niyad]

30. ooops--SOMEBODY is sneaking some of your honeycrisps out here--occasionally available,

and gooooood.

I see dozens of varieties of apples throughout the year, no monoculture here, thank goodness.

[Igel]

36. And yet White Transparents are pretty much gone.

Their skin really was transparent, so every little bruise and imperfection is really obvious.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

38. we grow transparents in our orchard... n/t

[aroach]

33. Some made it to MO

Dillons in Springfield, Missouri has Honey Crisp apples. I agree they are wonderful.

[amborin]

35. Wow! your area really has many varieties!

here, the stores still have McIntosh, and also carry granny smith, gala, delicious, fuji, and a few others; but no more jonathans or pippins, which were great for pies

yeah, the strawberries here are outstanding; there are also good dark cherries, in season; and other items; but not many apples! The honey crisp sounds good!

[xxqqqzme]

50. Yes, I have & I'm in SoCal.

My local market, & Trader Joe's, always has Honey Crisps in season. The only problem is they get scooped up in a flash. I love Honey Crisps. They taste like apples tasted when I was a kid. Crisp is the perfect name for them. I can't get enough of them when they're available.

Alton Brown even recommends them as one of the apples you should use in an apple pie.

[Juneboarder]

125. Hi there...

my local store, Frazier Farms, has the Honey Crisps quite often. I don't know, but maybe check out a Whole Foods, Henry's or Sprouts; one of those should be in your So-Cal area...

[Juneboarder]

28. Have you been to the produce department

in a grocery store in the mid-west or north-east during winter? The produce period sucks! We in CA are very lucky to have the choices we have at this time of year. I suggest you go to your local farmers markets and check out their produce. You'll find lovely apples (hence you look at the appropriate time of year). I am in San Diego, and here is a link from my local farmers market on what our local fresh produce choices are at specific times throughout the year:

http://www.sdfarmbureau.org/BuyLocal/Harvest-Calendar.php

Farmers markets are one of my favorite things to do on Saturday mornings :)

[amborin]

37. thanks for the link!

you're right; ca markets have an incredible variety and quantity of produce!

isn't there a self-pick apple grove near san diego? oak glen or something?

[Juneboarder]

40. There are a few that I know of...

I don't know the names, but I do know that I pass a couple of orchards on my way up to Julian. There is also, of course, the famous town of Julian that is known for their apples and the beloved "Mom's Apple Pie Shop". Ohh man! I usually find our best apples around the end of September through October.

Are you in the San Diego area?

[amborin]

44. no

la

but that is a gorgeous area; also Anza Borrego is the greatest!

[Bette Noir]

73. You guys are making me homesick, and I still live here!

Yes, apple orchards in Oak Glen and Julian. There used to be u-pick cherry orchards in Beaumont, but they're long gone. I live on strawberries from the local farmers' market, but they can't hold a candle to the strawberries in Oregon. I think it's the long days in summer that do it-- they're the same varieties we grow here, but infinitely tastier.

[Juneboarder]

121. I used to live in LA

San Fernando Valley; Northridge area. I only go back a couple times a year to visit Grandma in Burbank. I love it down here, but sadly we are quickly turning into a mini-LA :(

[TuxedoKat]

59. Not in St. Louis

The grocery stores there were incredible! My mom came to visit me there once and counted 17 varieties of apples. I still miss those grocery stores, I didn't realize how good I had it there. Now, I'm here in NY -- supposedly a big apple growing state -- I guess so but it's not reflected in the gorcery stores. I guess all the good apples all get shipped elsewhere.

[Juneboarder]

122. Yes, I've been to Buffalo in the winter

and the produce department was quite dreary. Frozen veggies sounded better almost :(

I've only driven through St. Louis, but a beautiful part of the country!

[Enthusiast]

90. Doesn't suck in the least. I live in Ohio,

our grocery stores (Krogers,Giant Eagle, Meijers) have a bewildering abundance of fresh produce in the winter.

Our local Meijers has over a dozen apple varieties and they are in pristine condition. Any and every salad green is available and in wonderful condition.

The single complaint I have with Ohio winter grocery produce is their chilies. Mid-Winter Ohio chilies often have wrinkled skins.

[Ohio Metal]

100. Same thing here in Cincinnati

Kroger has a great apple selection all year long.

[Juneboarder]

123. I'm sorry

I didn't mean to generalize... it could quite possibly be that the stores I went into were all out in the middle of nowhere; just next door to the horse and buggies. :)

[TuxedoKat]

126. Probably so...

There are two major grocery chains in St. Louis, and they are super competitive always trying to outdo the other. This, of course, is great for the consumers for the variety, volume and quality of products they offer. Omaha is great too for produce, according to my mom.

[sasquuatch55]

105. Walmart produce is the poorest quality at premium prices.

nt

[Juneboarder]

124. That's funny

my coworker brags left and right at how great Walmart is. I have to refrain myself from puking as Walmart is just the worst company ever. I haven't stepped foot in any Walmart stores in over 10 years...

[dixiegrrrrl]

41. Here in rural teeny town Ala. rome, Jonathan, apples are available.

Both in the Wal-mart, in the Winn-Dixie, and in the produce stores.

Higher than hell, but available.
Anywhere from 1.89 to 3.29 per pound, depending on quality and season.

[xxqqqzme]

49. I don't know where you are in CA but here in

Orange County, where I shop anyway, we enjoy a wide variety. I find an even bigger selection at farmers markets on weekends.

[AsahinaKimi]

71. San Francisco has a great farmers market near City hall..

Every Wednesday all year round. Rain or Shine. This is one of the best farmer's market in the city of San Francisco. Great prices and fresh produce. There is one both that has like 30 kinds of mushrooms!! There are venders who sell nuts, as well as Fish, fresh veggies and fruits. Apples? There are lots of kinds of Apples! I have even seen Apples from Japan, they are very tiny and crunchy and very tasty.

[JDPriestly]

82. Depends on the neighborhood.

I live in a working class neighborhood. There are all kinds of Mexican vegetables. I don't know their names. But the apple supply is very, very limited. Of course this is not the season for fresh apples. But even if it were, we would see only a very limited choice of varieties in our local stores. Our community probably could not afford the prices.

The choice of apples in West L.A. is probably much bigger, but they may not have the selection in Mexican foods that we have. Stores have to buy to please their customers. Makes sense to me even though I am an apple person.

Still, we should not be importing fruit juices from China. I do not trust the regulation of the health of the food supply in China.

[Alcibiades]

66. We get Jonathans here at Kroger

I try to get the bag o apples, because they are apple-sized, rather than the watermelon-sized ones they sell individually.

[Enthusiast]

88. Apple monoculture?

I don't believe you are even close here.

I don't believe U.S. grown apples are deteriorating in quality. Deteriorating in quality compared to what the Chinese produce? I seriously doubt that. How about some documentation.

[Romulox]

119. As a consumer, I'll disagree with you. The oversized red and golden delicious in mainstream markets

are of low quality. As are Washington grown Granny Smiths (why can't I get New Zealand Granny Smiths any more?)

[Trekologer]

99. Its more a function of the market conditions

American consumers mostly like the red delicious and granny smith varieties. So supermarkets stock mostly those. Remember that a supermarket has to buy their products in bulk so they're going to buy the varieties that consumers want to buy. That means that some of the more boutique varieties are not always stocked, are in limited quantities, or not at all. At the supermarket I worked at for 7 years, we always had at least 6-10 varieties but most of the stock was the red delicious and granny smith.

[grasswire]

16. most commercial pickles are now grown and packed in India

Seriously. They grow the cukes, pack the pickles, and send them here to supermarkets. The Nalley's rep told me that virtually all U.S. pickles except boutique niche are from India.

Gahhhh!

[Art_from_Ark]

60. Well, I was going to put in a word for Atkins pickles

which had been an Arkansas product for decades, using pickles grown in-state, as well as in Texas and Mississippi. But I just read that the company had been bought by some conglomerate, which itself was bought by another conglomerate, and the end result was the same old crap that happens every time Big Bizness gets its grubby paws on a locally successful product :grr:

[jmowreader]

104. There's the Mount Olive Pickle Company in Mount Olive, NC, that pickles in the US

It's not a huge pickle company--but they turn North Carolina-grown cukes into pickles right here in North Carolina.

They do have two things going against them: they provide a large amount of the funding for Mount Olive College, a Free Will Baptist institution that makes BJU look liberal; and they were the first food company in the world to switch to HFCS from sugar--and they did it in 1969!

[sasquuatch55]

106. And the Mount Olive quality is low.

nt

[Maru Kitteh]

115. They've always been good enough for us poor folk.

[jmowreader]

127. A pickle's a pickle, dude, and Mount Olives taste okay

I'm certain there are expensive organic gourmet pickles on sale at Whole Foods Market, but in the middle of Lower East Armpit NC, Mount Olive pickles are as good as any others.

[paulsby]

61. when i lived in hawaii, i would often see pineapples grown a MILE from the grocery store

and they were MORE expensive than they were in california.

not all the time.

but sometimes.

it was absurd

[Bette Noir]

74. I visited Maui, once. The mangos in the markets were imported from Mexico,

just like in California. I had to go to a farmers' market to buy locally-grown mangos, which were pure heaven. The locally-grown pineapples were a revelation, too.

I think we're doing a great commercial for eating locally.

[paulsby]

78. the pineapples i referred to were definitely locally grown

as they had the stickers on them to prove it.

my favorite produce in hawaii was the guavas you could pick ALONG THE ROAD on hana highway and on the north shore in general.

anybody who gets scurvy in hawaii has to try REALLLLLLLLLY hard :)

guavas go bad REALLY quickly which is why you don't see them in stores much. they literally last a couple of days or so.

but they ROCK

[Enthusiast]

89. You are right.

Chinese apples are cheaper because China subsidizes the entire industry. It is unlikely they actually make a profit but they only provide jobs for their people. More of that "fair trade" they are trying to sell us.

[jwirr]

112. Everyone complains about subsidizing our farmers but this is the

result when we do not. It seems to me that keeping our farmers in business is a good stimulus plan. Especially when they are growing the kind of foods we want.

[bulloney]

91. It shows the absurdity of the claim that the U.S. has the most efficient food system in the world.

About 15 years ago, a university study indicated that food ingredients will travel an average of 2000 miles from the farm to the grocery store. You can have the raw product growing next door to you, but because of the dominance of trans-national corporations setting food policy, we're shipping stuff in from overseas when we can produce it here. This raises all kinds of questions on the safety and wholesomeness of our food.

This rates right up there with the claim that the U.S. has the best health care system. We've said it so often that we believe it without proving it.

[jmowreader]

103. An example of that absurdity

I have lived in South Idaho (for the purposes of this post I lived in Horseshoe Bend and New Plymouth; I also lived in Mountain Home but wasn't eating potatoes then as we moved when I was seven months old) and North Idaho (St. Maries). When I lived in South Idaho all you could get was Idaho potatoes, as one would expect: the farmers would take them to the packaging facility where they were washed, sorted for size, then bagged and palletized, and the supermarket operators would pick them up right from the loading docks.

In North Idaho you didn't see Idaho potatoes unless they were Ore-Ida or Simplot frozen french fries. Potatoes were shipped via rail to California or the East; they would have trucked the potatoes to the north but no one wanted to pull the White Bird and Lewiston Hills in a 250-horsepower truck with 40,000 pounds of potatoes in it. My parents report that remains the case to this day: it is literally easier to buy Idaho potatoes in North Carolina, three thousand miles from the Idaho potato fields, than it is to buy them in Hayden, which is in the same state.

[HopeHoops]

4. I've boycotted Nestle since at least 1987 because of their formula marketing tactics

Juicy Juice is a Libby's product, owned by Nestle. Carnation and Contadina are two other major brands they own. I won't buy a fucking candybar from that scumbag company. No shock they get their raw material from China.

[FSogol]

8. Same here. Nestle is one of earth's most ethically challenged companies. n/t

[Enthusiast]

92. The larger the corporation

you know the rest. They buy up these once well respected product names then use every method they can to cut costs in an effort to increase the bottom line. This is in every area and with every product.

Check out your once respected Maytag washer as a prime example-the quality is now so poor that they aren't even worth your money. The designs are completely different. In a word-junk.

This is what globalization, deregulation and free trade has wrought. Too bad these fucking pollsters don't ask the American people what they think of globalization.

[sasquuatch55]

107. Sears is the same. Their brand products used to be affordable and excellent quality.Not for decades.

nt

[unapatriciated]

11. I have also boycotted them for the same reason.

most don't remember it. Good read for a little more info on this company
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Nestlé

[Kalyke]

21. Didn't their formula kill or harm some babies, kick-starting a recall?

Why, yes... it was recalled for melamine.

http://cbs5.com/national/melamine.baby.formula.2.875000.html

[unapatriciated]

39. yep. China

yet we are supposed to trust their organic food.:wtf:

[nonconformist]

54. I seem to also remember them giving out formula samples in third world countries

And telling the women it was better for the babies.

Guess what? The samples ran out, the poor women couldn't afford to buy any more formula, and by then their breastmilk had dried up.

[liberation]

80. Not that Nestle is any less evil... but how on earth did they formula cause women to stop lactating?

... that makes no sense.

[nonconformist]

83. It makes perfect sense. They stopped nursing and fed the babies formula.

If you're not nursing, your milk dries up quickly. Even random, occasional nursings can cause a huge drop in supply.

[jwirr]

114. Nestle encouraged mothers to use their product saying it was better

for their children.

[xxqqqzme]

53. I stopped in the early 70s

when I read a story about a field crop sprayed w/ DDT. The concentration was so high, they couldn't sell it in the US so they made baby food out of it and sent it to 3rd world countries.

Were they finally able to purchase Hershey? I haven't bought a Hershey anything since I heard they were trying to buy it.

[Enthusiast]

93. Isn't it true that the use of DDT

is still legal and even encouraged in many countries we trade with, including Mexico? I did see an article somewhere suggesting the use of DDT in an African country as the BEST solution to mosquitoes.

[HopeHoops]

111. They did NOT buy Hershey.

[xxqqqzme]

135. Thank you

That's a relief!

[LeftinOH]

5. In addition, a lot of brand name pre-packaged fruit cups say 'product of China'.

I always check.

[OhioChick]

29. I noticed Dole's fruit cups are now "Made in China." n/t

[notadmblnd]

7. That didn't make sense to me

The small family orchard guys says it would cost him too many $$ to use small containers. But the article goes on to state that only chinese apples are used and that the final product is processed here in the US, meaning that the juice boxes are filled here. So if the real cost is the apples, because someone else is filling the containers, then how would the small orchard guy's product have to be double in cost?


The other question, why does it cost less to grow apples in china and ship them here instead of using home grown apples?

[MineralMan]

12. I doubt very much if they're shipping apples from China.

Most likely they're juiced in China and the juice is shipped as a bulk product. My question would be what was in the tank before the apple juice? There are no dedicated apple juice tankers, I'm quite certain.

[notadmblnd]

20. Probably something highly toxic

knowing corporate America's relationship with cheap products.

[Enthusiast]

94. Probably petroleum products.

Or anything.

[jmowreader]

120. Nothing was in the tank

Fruit juice is shipped in a cardboard drum. They put a bag in the drum, fill it with juice and seal it. It makes handling easier--instead of having to go through all the food handling bullshit you'd need to do to move bulk product from place to place, you can just move a skid of four barrels with a forklift, and ship it from place to place in regular dry vans.

[jmowreader]

46. Can't answer the second question, but can on the first

A packaging line that can handle small containers or juice boxes costs a lot of money. Nestle can afford one because they're running juice through it 24 hours a day. I don't know what this man is calling a "small orchard"--100 acres? 1000 acres?--but there's some reason he's not in a co-op like the Florida citrus growers have. (Tropicana and Florida's Natural are packaging and marketing co-ops.) Maybe there's not one in his area, or perhaps he just likes selling his juice directly to customers.

On edit: they're NOT shipping apples here from China. They're shipping concentrated apple juice; this has come in from overseas for decades. Iran is a BIG player in that market but for some reason (the embargo, probably) they don't sell in the US. Poland is another major source, and now China. It comes in a 55-gallon cardboard drum with an aseptic plastic bag containing the juice inside. It used to come in a black plastic drum, and the drums were popular on the secondhand market to catch rainwater, turn into strawberry planters and do all sorts of other things with.

[liberation]

84. That sounds about right, also of note: China produces over 30% of the world's apple crops

The USA is second with about 1/4th of the production volume of the Chinese.

So on a per-capita basis, China and the US are neck in neck with regards to apple production ;-) Not to be confused with the apples of the electronic persuasion. Those are all made in China by very stylish child labor.

[grasswire]

14. ..and in the apple capital of Wenatchee, crops drop to the ground...

...because there's no market in the U.S. Most of the apples grown there are shipped to China. The rest lie in the fields.

[amborin]

17. really?

by the way, wenatchee is so beautiful, and cashmere has the world's greatest bakery

[grasswire]

19. that's what a family member tells me who works in Wenatchee

Most of the crop disappears early to China.

What's the name of the bakery in Cashmere? And how far from Wenatchee, I wonder?

[amborin]

34. the bakery

is Anjou

we've gone there 3x, it is simply unbelievable

not too far from Wenatchee

[Touchdown]

18. When did Yakima change to Wenatchee?

;)

[Andy823]

23. Yep.

I worked in the apple industry for over 20 years, and I live on a family orchard run by my brother in law. I see all kinds of apples left on the trees because of bad color that we used to sell to the processors for juice. Now they hang until they fall or the birds eat them. There is just no market for them anymore. Some of the plants that used to take them to juice have closed down. My brother in law was doing pretty good about 6 years back because he had switched to organic, and the organic juicers was were bringing a pretty good price, but not anymore!

I live an hours drive from Wenatchee!

[Kolesar]

96. I want to ski in Mazama some day

There is a huge cross country trail system in the area.

[niyad]

22. have been boycotting nestle for decades--ever since the battle for the ERA-and their

tainted infant formula. yet another reason to keep boycotting them.

[Captain Hilts]

25. Canned vegetables at SAFEWAY only have a "distributed by" no country of origin. nt

[Blue Owl]

26. I like the yummy new lead flavor myself

Plus I can taste the jobs disappearing right here in the USA.

:sarcasm:

[Warpy]

27. The only cider I drink

says "Made in New Mexico" and it's only available in fall and early winter, although one store here freezes it and manages to have it last until early April.

The only reason Nestle is able to sell "juicy juice" so cheaply is that they make it with products from offshore. Check out health food store brands for 100% juice made here and compare the cost.

[ChromeFoundry]

31. Soon, all our products and food will come from China. n/t

[williesgirl]

42. No more Juicy Juice in my cart. Thanks. rec'd

[FailureToCommunicate]

52. Your kids will be better off without the 8 teaspoons of sugar (fructose) per box also!

[nonconformist]

57. Juicy Juice doesn't have high fructose corn syrup

They have no added sweeteners, which is why I buy it.

Or, bought it. I won't be buying it anymore.

[FailureToCommunicate]

64. 100% fruit juice=fructose ("fruit sugar") All 32g. is from fruit, but it's still too much. You are

much better off giving the kids real fruit, and some water if they are thirsty.

I believe the label says no added "sugar" but they do add fructose -fruit sugar- from white grapes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_sugar

"All natural" doesn't always mean 'all healthy'

[heli]

43. Amount of apple juice concentrate from China skyrocketed 55 times in 10 years

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/120807dnbusjuice.28107a0.html

Chinese apple juice imports causing concern
December 8, 2007

... The amount of apple juice concentrate pouring in from China skyrocketed from only 4.5 million gallons in 1996 to 249.54 million gallons in 2005 – 55 times as much – according to figures from the Apple Association. Last year, the U.S. imported 225.54 million gallons from that country. The juice is most often shipped to the U.S. as concentrate, with water and packaging added here... Many store brands use apple juice concentrate from China, as do well-known names such as Motts, Tree Top, Welch's and Tropicana.

[NYC_SKP]

45. Nestle "Juicy Juice" website has a forum, "Parent Connection". VERY interesting comments.

I wonder when they'll be shutting down the forum.

http://www.juicyjuice.com/Parent-Connection/Default.aspx?TopicId=d2e1ff93-79f0-41e9-9cc7-ee284edbfcd2

(You'll see people aren't responding very well to the question.) :P

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Posted on: 2/26/2010 6:20 PM

Posted by: Never A

City: joke u.s.

Made in china. Enough said. No more Nestle products for me. Bring the d@mn jobs back to this country and maybe we can make juice here cheap. Tired of these Fat uneducated CEOs thinking only of themselves and thier bottom line.

Posted on: 2/24/2010 6:02 PM

Posted by: mike B

City: port st lucie

WOW Profits over people,should we be surprised? I will never buy a nestle product again until they get rid of all ingredients from China.I like how you can barely see the product of china clear stamp on the bottles.

Posted on: 2/24/2010 4:50 PM

Posted by: Concerned M

City: West Palm Beach

Our local news station just did a story about Juicy Juice now being made from China apples. You can bet I wont be buying this any more. Ill also be much more hesitant to by Nestle products at all from now on.

Posted on: 2/7/2010 2:54 PM

Posted by: Lori R

City: Annapolis

I was appalled when I realized Juicy Juice - juice boxes are a product of China. I have stopped buying all Nestle products as a result. I am furthermore going to inform my friends and family around the country about this outrage. China is known for putting lead in our toys, who knows what they will put in our food!
Recommended.

:kick:

[spoony]

139. Interesting!

There's also a "chat live with a Juicy Juice specialist" option on their about page. I'd love to see those logs.

[Stumbler]

47. .

:puke:

[GreenTea]

48. Nestle - Yeah, a big name in health foods. Get real - It's corporate junk like ALL corporate foods!

Nestle - Procter & Gamble, General Foods, etc. etc. all corporate trash food, like all corporations they cut corners for profits and use cheap shit ingredients for even more profits and now ever out source American jobs....

These corporations don't give a fuck about you, me, your kids or anyone else....it's all about profits, as they always push patriotism, that so many fools like this one, most likely believe....It's all about multinational PROFITS - NOT quality - fuck the consumer - take what we give you and shut the fuck up. We don't need no regulations and consumer quality agencies....just trust us not the government the republicans and corporations instill into us.

[FailureToCommunicate]

51. What a laugh! "...do they (China)have the same restrictions/regulations the U.S. does?"

Of course not you dolt. Why do you think products from China are cheaper for you at Wall-Mart? They have nothing close to our FDA, USDA, FSIS, or even OSHA, or other official agencies that help insure US products and produce (and workers) are safe(er).

Oh and by the way, I wouldn't give my kids Juicy Juice whether it was made in China or here: It contains nearly 32 grams of sugar (in the form of fructose) or about 8 TEASPOONS, per juice pack. It may be "all natural" and "100% juice" but that don't make it health food...

[Danmel]

55. Most garlic is from china now too

You really have to watch everything and even then you have no real idea where the ingredients in prepared foods come from.

[OhioChick]

56. I was shocked to find the same....garlic from China! n/t

[AsahinaKimi]

72. That is strange considering that

Gilroy California calls itself the Garlic Capital of the USA. Every year there is a garlic festival, and most Garlic Fries at our ballpark are made from Gilroy Garlic. Maybe instead of shipping Garlic over from China they might consider the city of Gilroy.. for their Garlic needs. They sure have enough of it!

[sasquuatch55]

109. Everyone should have their own gardens no matter the size. Garlic, for one, is very easy.

nt

[Danmel]

137. I know

I have a Gilroy garlic cookbook. But it seems that cheap trumps all these days- it trumps good, it trumps safe, it trumps supporting your fellow countrymen and women. It is the Walmart-izarion of America & it is part of our ruination.

[AsahinaKimi]

138. We don't have a Walmart

Within the City and County of San Francisco. Perhaps they were banned, since this is mostly a Union town. We do have Walgreen's but I don't think they are related.

[matt819]

58. Thanks for this

I'm beyond the juicy juice stage of life, but I've kind of assumed that juices were one of those things that were okay. Guess not. Time to look at juice labels.

Also, take a look at some cereal labels. Some are ambiguous regarding where the cereals are made and/or where various add-ins are sourced. I got a vague answer from Kelloggs about this.

[OhioChick]

68. Kellogg's???

I'll have to check into that. The kids eat a lot of Kellogg products here.
Thanks for the heads up.

[matt819]

70. Yep

There was something on one of the cereal boxes that left the impression that it was not made in the US - I can't recall what it was. In any case, I wrote and received a reply to the effect that they exercise quality control, etc., but, if memory serves (and I will admit that I can't remember the response in detail), the response did not state that their cereals were made in the US or US-grown or US-made ingredients.

[defendandprotect]

62. I've seen some products like that . . . is it the carton made in China or the juice or both?

[madville]

65. Check your frozen veggies also, found some Made in China ones recently

Saw bags of frozen broccoli and green beans that were Made in China.

[OhioChick]

67. Most mushrooms in jars, cans too

Couldn't find a can/jar of mushrooms at the grocery store that weren't made in China to save my life.

Green Giant....China

[Hardrada]

69. Suzanne takes your hand and she leads you to the river...

...and she gives you tea and oranges that come all the way from China....


-Leonard Cohen

[grahamhgreen]

75. Stop! You're killing me. nt

[peacetalksforall]

76. I would never buy Nestle - artificial stuff and way too many chemicals.

[SlingBlade]

77. Good Catch. Thanks

[pundaint]

81. So we get extra landfill and the risk of Chinese quality control. Thanks American buyers of crap!

[Enthusiast]

86. Manufacturers want to end

the requirement for country of origin food labeling. Without this labeling outsourcing of our food production would be wholesale.

Doing away with food labeling requirements is exactly the kind of result we could expect from the recent supreme court ruling that will fill congress with representatives of corporate America. As if the current situation isn't perilous enough.

I see this as a grave threat to our sovereignty, health and welfare. The country has already been damaged severely. These issues needs our full attention.

[Jennicut]

87. I went shopping at Stop and Shop last night and checked it out for myself.

It is so small and barely noticeable on the plastic container of Apple juice, but there it was....product of China. On the juice boxes the label was product of Argentina. So I guess sometimes they get apples from other countries. I then started checking other brands to make sure. It has me a bit paranoid. You end up wanting to check the labels on all products that you buy.

[pleah]

95. K&R I have started reading labels on everything these days. n/t

[PatrynXX]

101. If you can afford it.

I can't so cheap is cheap. If I get sick on China oh well. Can't be helped.

[revolution breeze]

108. That is why people need to be educated

Agriculture is a dying industry in the United States, more and more of our food comes from overseas, where there is less food safety regulation. Fruit grown in the United States must pass more stringent inspection then the same fruits grown in Mexico and shipped to the United States. Not to mention what is put on the fruit while it is still in the orchard! The same holds true for vegetables and meats. Most of the produce grown by big agriculture (i.e. ConAgra) isn't even grown for consumption in the United States, it is used for bio fuel or shipped overseas because they do not have to provide the same labeling they would if it was used here. It is getting harder and harder to "know your grower".

[jwirr]

110. What juices are made in America? WIC specifies Juicy Juice. I guess

we will have to plant more apple trees and make our own juice.

[Maru Kitteh]

113. The kids are grown so we don't get juice boxes but I'll be looking

very closely at more than just the ingredients on our juice from now on. I don't want any food products from China in this house.

[Romulox]

116. Look out for garlic, lunchbox type fruit cups, too. If it says "China", I says "NO!". nt

[Kievan Rus]

129. They make ALMOST NOTHING in America these days....

And our economy will never recover until we actually have manufacturing back.

[Profprileasn]

130. Feel the same...

If it says "made in China", I try to avoid. If it is food, I absolutely will not buy. Saw fish at store during a SUPER sale on Friday very cheap caught in Russia & packaged in China. Didn't buy it. Bought fish caught in Alaska to support our US fisherman even though it was slightly more expensive. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

[4_TN_TITANS]

132. We support our local orchard.

It's a yearly pilgrimage to a local orchard in the hills of TN. They have the best homeade cider you'll ever taste! Fuck China.

[knitter4democracy]

133. With Argentinian apples, I'd bet.

That's what I've heard from the apple farmers here in Michigan. I was so excited to find an apple juice at Meijer today (their Naturals brand) that's all from Michigan apples.

I've stopped buying most canned fruit and veggies. These days, almost none of it is from the US. I go to the farmers and put up my own all summer and fall long for the rest of the year. That way, I'm supporting farmers and keeping it healthier for my family. That, and it's fun. :)

[mimitabby]

134. boycott nestle - eat Washington apples!

eat WASHINGTON APPLES!