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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:21 PM
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Daniel Ellsberg: '8 YR Executive COUP-Under Bush/Cheney-Ratified By BOTH Dems & Repubs-Incl Obama'
Edited on Thu Mar-04-10 07:35 PM by kpete
Pentagon Papers Leaker Calls Bush 'Domestic Enemy'
by efraker
Thu Mar 04, 2010 at 03:56:52 PM PST

.....an unintentionally !!!fantastic interview!!! between Daniel Ellsberg, the person who leaked the 'Pentagon Papers' (documents which explicitly detailed the ways in which four American presidents had misled the public to expand a war the public didn't want) and Robin Young. I say unintentionally because Young seems to be surprised that Ellsberg wants to use the interview to talk about current events, not promote his Oscar nominated movie, The Most Dangerous Man in America.


Daniel Ellsberg:We had eight years of George W. Bush and Cheney who, I believe felt that all of these things were not and should not be crimes despite the Constitution despite our laws, because their attitude was that the president as commander in chief during the time of war had no limit on his power whatever. In effect, they were the kind of domestic enemies of the Constitution that I swore as a lieutenant in the Marine Corps and every Congress person every official in government, every officer is sworn to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. The trouble is that President Obama - not to my surprise I'm sorry to say - as their successor has not eschewed any of those powers. And in effect an executive coup that took place under the Bush Administration was later ratified by Congress by both Democrats and Republicans and is being continued by President Obama.

!!!fantastic interview!!!
http://www.hereandnow.org/2010/03/rundown-34-2/
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/4/843036/-Pentagon-Papers-Leaker-Calls-Bush-Domestic-Enemy
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:23 PM
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1. What Can We Do About It?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:25 PM
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3. First and foremost, we have to vote them out.
Yup.

No matter what.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:32 PM
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5. I know you mean well, and I am sorry but that is a fantasy. Vote?
Vote for who? Where are you going to find candidates willing to buck the party machines? And if you do find them, you must realize that the Congress-critters that are now backed by CorpAmerica, will get unlimited funding.

I dont have any answers. Actually I believe it is hopeless, but I am willing to fight on, and die fighting.

Who owns the voting machines? Who owns the media? Who owns Congress? Who owns the internet? Not us.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:37 PM
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8. That's what I think, too. I don't see a way to do it.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:14 AM
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14. Damn
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:56 PM
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19. .
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 01:56 PM by Bluebear
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:26 PM
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4. Drink
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NeoGreen Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:36 PM
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7. What ever we do, we must not...
...mention a third party as an alternative.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:15 AM
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15. I assume you are being sarcastic. How could it get worse? nt
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:25 PM
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2. Yup.
We've got common war criminals -- self-admitted war criminals -- just walking along, free as you please.

And we have O and the Democratically controlled Congress just passin' along much of the same ol' same ol'. :(

It disgusts me to my core.
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:32 PM
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6. rally in DC, March 20, hell's anniversary
in the streets..

www.march20.org and www.answercoalition.org

also, actions at:
www.prosecutegeorgebush.com and www.afterdowningstreet.org

it ain't over till the criminals are in the big house.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:38 PM
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9. This should be a posting all on its own.
DUers used to get together to go to these marches. It's time we got back to the streets.
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 07:57 PM
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10. thank YOU, I just did..
in GD (posted it 2-3 wks ago,it kinda sank!)
:hi:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:06 PM
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17. Post it again....
every day for a week.
See if we can keep it kicked.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 08:42 PM
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11. Nothing else is more important
Bushco must be known for what it is and the crimes it has committed.

Justice must be served. Nothing else really matters if we don't put bushco in it proper place.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 09:15 PM
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12. Ellsberg nails it again!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 10:12 PM
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13. K&R
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:40 AM
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16. K&R
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nightgaunt Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:54 PM
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18. Now we need to do it again but how?
Since 1980 it has been the slow coup by the corporations and theocrats against our Republic. They have us in the position to where once they let the economy finish falling then we will be at their mercy. The idea of parties outside of the two official ones is a lost cause. We need to open it up to all parties but to do so we need to get the Dems & Repubs to do it. A Catch 22 or conundrum. We are losing out to them because they hold most of the cards. After failing in 1934, & not punished, they rethought how to go about it and took the Fabian way of slow behind the scenes incrementally to do so. And it is working in spades. You can chart the fall or the Republic and the rise of the overseas empire. One way or another if the economy falls we are doomed as a republic.
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