Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

With Maria Cantwell, we now have 50 Senate votes for the public option --

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:22 AM
Original message
With Maria Cantwell, we now have 50 Senate votes for the public option --
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 06:24 AM by pnwmom
assuming the 49 votes listed here are all solid:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7848152&mesg_id=7848152



http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/cantwell-joins-public-option-push-no-35.php

Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) became the 35th senator to declare support for passing a public option via reconciliation, her office confirms to TPMDC.

Cantwell told the Huffington Post that she'd vote for a public option under reconciliation, if the Senate parliamentarian OK's it.

"If the parliamentarian says you can and it can all work, yes," she said. "If it works, fine."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:27 AM
Response to Original message
1. What's up in Connecticut?
What is Dodd's excuse? Is he up for a cushy Ins. Co. Lobbying postion when he leaves?

The current official list is here:

http://whipcongress.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:29 AM
Response to Original message
2. So, doesn't that mean Cantwell would vote against the PO if the Parliamentarian opposed, even if the
VP (who really makes the decision, not the Parliamentarian who is advisory) ruled that the PO was a permissible part of a Reconciliation Bill?

That doesn't give me a lot of confidence in her support for the PO or for this Bill.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Why would the Parliamentarian oppose it? It will reduce the budget deficit,
the numbers have already shown that. And that's the only issue for the Parliamentarian to decide.

I think she was just being precise in her speaking. No one has seen yet a public option bill, or the "package of fixes" people are talking about. If the public option is mishandled -- e.g., combined with other things that don't relate to budget matters -- then maybe it wouldn't pass muster. Now it's up to Reid and Pelosi to make sure that it's handled correctly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. I agree that's how it should be handled.
But, the chief obstacle to a decent HCR package with a PO is obtaining 50 plus one votes for it. The original Senate Bill is the result of too much compromise with a group of conservadems with an agenda to defeat meaningful reform. There are more than 10 of them. I don't see how that's changed since December.

I do realize, of course, that the December Bill was structured to get 60 votes, and that will be different from a "Majority Rules" Bill, but I'm not convinced that there really are 50 Democratic Senators who would vote for the House Bill now. I used to believe there were, but the wool has been yanked from my eyes by the fact that the Obama Bill has no PO, which means that he won't fight publicly for it, even if he really does want it - and, I'm not sure he does.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:32 AM
Response to Original message
3. I'd Like To See 50 Signed To The Dotted Line...
The Bennett letter. From Countdown that number is 37...(I think that counts Cantwell), so there are still some work to be done. But the tipping point is soon to be reached as the closer you get to 50 the more pressure is placed on those in the middle to get on board. We'll know when this pressure mounts when you start hearing Reid bring PO back into his lexicon...realizing he's gonna have to deal with it. I also think Rockafeller will come around...his previous strong support for Public Option along with his glass jaw makes him one who can be rolled if needs be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:39 AM
Response to Original message
4. The thread you posted is mine. Let me explain
The first 38 votes are definite on the dotted line.

My "yes" means they are leaning yes, but not a definite. . .based on state represented, ideology, election year politics, being on the record about the public option and the position/senority in the Senate.

"maybe" is a toss up.

"no" = no.

We still need to keep the heat on the "yes" and the "maybes."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:40 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Yes -- we definitely need to keep the heat up on all of them!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 07:03 AM
Response to Original message
7. Good. Take it up as a separate measure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
9. Did Biden say he'd vote for it? I don't think Obama wants a public option "at this time."
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 07:37 AM by mucifer
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 07:57 AM
Response to Original message
10. One vote not to trust on that letter (at least)
...Menendez (DINO-NJ). Menendez voted for the Baucus Bill which did away with the public option in the first case. I doubt he'll change his mind this time around.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 12:26 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC