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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:39 AM
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boo f---ing hoo, Rove Says DUI Revelations Nearly Sunk Bush
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 09:39 AM by kpete
Rove Says DUI Revelations Nearly Sunk Bush
Mike Allen has some good nuggets from Karl Rove's Courage and Consequence, which will be published next week.

Most interesting is Rove's analysis of the timing of news -- just four days before Election Day 2000 -- that George W. Bush had been arrested for drunk driving. Rove fingers Gore spokesman Chris Lehane as the person behind the attack, though Lehane denies it.

"Did this last-minute revelation of Bush's decades-old DUI hurt? Yes, a lot. First, it knocked us off message at a critical time. ... Second, we had made a big issue of Gore's credibility and now we had a problem with Bush's. ... A number of people who supported Bush flipped and went for Gore. Second, a larger number of voters - especially evangelicals and social conservatives - decided not to vote, taking votes away from Bush. ... Before the news broke, we were up in Maine ... Bush went on to lose Maine ... If Bush did drop 2 percent nationally in the vote because of the DUI revelation, then it probably cost him four additional states that he lost by less than 1 percent -- New Mexico, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Oregon. Had he won them, ... it would have allowed him to win the White House without Florida. ... Of the things I would redo in the 2000 election, making a timely announcement about Bush's DUI would top the list."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/03/05/rove_says_dui_revelations_nearly_sunk_bush.html
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:40 AM
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1. Wouldn't want folks to think Bush was reckless and irresponsible. nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:40 AM
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2. Not enough, unfortunately, not enough.............
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:41 AM
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3. Those revelations came a few days too late, unfortunately
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:42 AM
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4. People Forget About This, But it Was Huge
Gore was behind in the polls and needed something to close the gap. The DUI annoucement really did that.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:15 AM
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18. Bush was all ready with the Ross Perot endorsement that same night too
It knocked Perot right off the news. In fact when Perot endorsed Bush he was asked about the DUI.


The DUI announcement was probably the most effective October Surprise in the last 20 years.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:44 AM
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5. Yeah, lying SHOULD have sunk him. But then, all repukes DO Is lie.
Knocked off message my ass. That little dry drunk was an incompetent asshole in every single matter.

And he didn't 'win' anything. He was appointed by a crooked Supreme Court.

God, I hate that little pig Rove. There is no way he would have said a fucking thing about the DUI(S).
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:44 AM
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6. Matt Liar was fluffing this little toad this a.m.
breathless anticipation for the book/big interview next week. :puke:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:47 AM
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7. If only.
:(
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:49 AM
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8. Fortunately, they already had a contingency plan in place.
Steal it.


*sigh*
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:50 AM
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9. Rove's book should be named "Chickenhawkery and Consequence"
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 09:51 AM by SpiralHawk
I mean, really, Dude. Where the hell is the courage is dodging the draft as Rove and Five Deferments Cheney did, and in going AWOL-Deserting, the way Bush did? And then lying America into a Republicon crony Oil-Profits Crusade that has cost us thousands of lives, and billions of dollars...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:51 AM
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10. Remember, Junior had lied about it.
And the media was all ho hum about it. They gave the asshole a pass on everything while endlessly attacking Gore.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:54 AM
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11. accountability Mr. Rove. Ever hear of it?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 10:01 AM
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12. and it's a good thing ole Harriet Miers scrubbed his TANG records
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 10:11 AM
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13. His desertion from the Air National Guard
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 10:54 AM by Brewman_Jax
and incomplete military records should have finished him, and he should be in Leavenworth. Desertion in time of war is far more damaging than any traffic offense.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 10:17 AM
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14. Cheney had Two, so that is three between them.....nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 10:22 AM
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15. Gosh, Karl - that was a close one! He coulda LOST!!! nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:16 AM
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19. Yeah, or they could have awarded the election to the guy with the most votes
Fortunately, Daddy Bush had stocked the Court to rule in Sonny's favor, and now Karl is eligible for a government pension. So it all worked out just fabulously. Unless, of course, you're one of those ingrates who died or had a loved one die in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:01 PM
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23. Unless. nt
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 10:40 AM
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16. I have no problem that Bush had a DUI, my problem was the lengths
that Poppy went to in order to get him out of it.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:11 AM
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17. they had plan B in their pockets....rigging the voting machines
(IMO)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:18 AM
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20. I'm pretty sure it's Chris Rock that has my favorite bit about George Bush's DUI
"George Bush got a DUI in 1976. Do you know how drunk you had to be to get a DUI in 1976?"
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:18 AM
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21. Laura Bush killed a guy ...really.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:27 AM
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22. Fortunately for Bush, the mugshot was lost...
...almost as if he had powerful parents or something.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:09 PM
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24. "Nearly..."
Now there's a sad word.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:13 PM
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25.  I DON'T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT!
""Did this last-minute revelation of Bush's decades-old DUI hurt? Yes, a lot. First, it knocked us off message at a critical time. ... "

Oh Horseshit. That "revelation" barely made a blip. Did it even get off the internets? Did it even get whispered in anything even remotely "Mainstream"? If it did.. PLEASE remind me. I sure don't recall any big wurlitzer-sized whoop-de-doo.
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