WHAT A JERK!

[Me.]

What an arrogant, macho, S.O.B.! It seems he must have fit it really well at the WH, till they turned on him. And what a liar about the torture. "We don't torture", pointing his finger. The only good that comes out of this is that it makes the WH look bad.

[MichiganVote]

1. The administration mantra, 'We don't torture', We don't torture','We don't torture',

[babylonsister]

2. He convinced me it'd be a waste of time to read his book because

I couldn't believe a word in it.

[wildbilln864]

3. yep!

Completely agree. He should be imprisoned!

[Moochy]

24. Amen to that

:mad: Watching...Now. I don't care that he came from Bill Clinton's administration this guy is a self serving criminal.

[orleans]

30. he met w/bush EVERY DAY! but he was too fucking busy being his

chum and acting like a hard ass so bush wouldn't dump him--i guess he FORGOT TO MENTION THE IMPORTANT SHIT TO THE IDIOT RESIDENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!

fuck tenet--

he's nobody's friend but his own.

he should be brought up on charges.

[Me.]

4. Totally

Not giving him a dime. Could he have been more obnoxious?

[crikkett]

5. Wow I can only guess the subject of your rants!

because my television is off.

[live love laugh]

6. Mine too. I won't buy the book OR watch him lie on TV. n/t

[Me.]

7. There Are Bigger Jerks Than Tenet

*, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rice, Hadley, KKK, I. Liar, but not many

[MichiganVote]

8. Tenet was complicit with all of them

[shenmue]

17. I thought it was B*sh!

He's the worst.

But Tenet sucks too.

[Canuckistanian]

9. Pointing his finger?

Seems to me that another US government official was roundly criticized for pointing his finger and lying.

Where is the outrage now?

[Jane Austin]

10. Since they all say "We don't torture," Isn't the next question then

"Well, who IS torturing these people? Blackwater? Military Ops? Foreigners?"

We all know SOMEBODY is torturing these detainees. So if we're not, then who is?

[Me.]

11. They're Using A Something, Something Technique

(which I can't remember what he called it) but it's not torture. Things like waterboarding but because they call it something else, it's not torture. And the gasbag will tell you that as he stabs his finger in the air to emphasize it.

[MissWaverly]

12. I think he said something like "enhanced interrogations""

he also said that no one had died from interrogations. Once again, we need to ask: did any prisoners in US custody die from interrogations? Maybe they died at the hands of "private contractors" that is the problem with this outsourced war.

Here's the text from CBS News/60 minues
"Water boarding?" Pelley asks.

"We do not – I don't talk about techniques," Tenet replies.

"It's torture," Pelley says.

"And we don't torture people. Now, listen to me. Now, listen to me. I want you to listen to me," Tenet says. "The context is it's post-9/11. I've got reports of nuclear weapons in New York City, apartment buildings that are gonna be blown up, planes that are gonna fly into airports all over again. Plot lines that I don't know – I don't know what's going on inside the United States. And I'm struggling to find out where the next disaster is going to occur. Everybody forgets one central context of what we lived through. The palpable fear that we felt on the basis of the fact that there was so much we did not know."

"You call it in the book, 'enhanced interrogation,'" Pelley remarks.

"…an assumption. Well, that's what we call it," Tenet says.

"And that's a euphemism," Pelley says.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/25/60minutes/main2728375_page3.shtml

[Me.]

15. He Gave A Tricky Answer Didn't He

When Pelley asked if any of those men (the pics shown) died and then Tenet said, none of them died in such an odd WH way, when they only give a half truth,or a full lie, I wanted to ask your question.

[MissWaverly]

16. Yes, Like I did not give out the name of a covert agent

I just said the wife of Joseph Wilson, well, then, what a relief, nobody could figure that one out.

[Me.]

23. Good

and another thing, IIRC, these rendition trips didn't start right after 9/11, we were a couple of years into this mess, when we were getting fake terra warnings etc when they started. For instance, khalil sheikh mohammed wasn't captured until March 2003. So the big panic Tenet says he was in just after 9/11 doesn't compute. His will be a case for the Hague.

[MissWaverly]

40. even if there was a big panic in Fall of 2000

there have been people held since 2001 w/o trial at GITMO, we have had enough time to reasonably assess this. The secret
prisons are still open, I agree with you that the stated arguments are weak and resemble Rudi's a vote for the Dems is a vote
for another terror attack mantra.

[Me.]

41. Don't Even

get me started on Rudy. Another case of doesn't compute. The people of NYC were looking forward to him going. Then 9/11 happened. I gave him big points for that day....now it's becoming obvious what a bad job he did of preparing the city for such an event.

I'm not worried about him becoming resident, though. When the going gets tough, and it will, he'll bail. That's the true measure of him.

[MissWaverly]

43. I agree that he will bail, and he's the best hope of the Repugs

maybe they can have the mystery candidate, somebody with a bag on his head.

[yardwork]

42. "the palpable fear that we felt on the basis..."

He didn't fear the attack until after 9/11, even after Newsweek had a column on Osama bin Laden. Hell, my pet parrot knew that Osama bin Laden was a threat, and he didn't get the president's daily briefing memo.

What a liar.

[MissWaverly]

44. agreed, also there was the first attempt on the WTC

they already knew that it had been targeted by extremists, there should have been more done to infiltrate these groups, if
John Walker Lindh could have been accepted as a member after coming from California, where was the CIA?

[yardwork]

45. Infiltrating extremists, and encouraging them to commit attacks, imo

But then I'm a tinfoil hatter.

[MissWaverly]

46. well, maybe

we have seen that with the Miami 7, but I hope that reason prevails and we start acting like a member of
the global community and not a run amok.

:-)

[undeterred]

13. I kept thinking of Laura Bush saying "nobody suffers more than the first couple"

and then expecting him to chime in with "what about me?" and then Cheney and everybody else. They're all suffering so much because they're all so damn stupid.

[L0oniX]

14. just another ass carrot...

among many ass carrots in office.

[valerief]

18. Blowhard is the word that comes to mind to me. nt

[H2O Man]

19. Was he bad?

I didn't see it, and I don't think I's want to.

[valerief]

21. Even if you didn't hear his words, you'd hate him. He's that loudmouthed

asshole in every meeting, blowhard drunk in every bar, the ultimate bully.

[Garbo 2004]

33. Oh yeah, for anyone informed on the subject he was terrible and self serving.

Tenet was still pushing the lie about Iraq: we believed but were mistaken. The Iraq NIE Key Judgments were a consensus of the CIA/intel community. (Of course the decision to attack Iraq was made before there was an NIE but Tenet made it sound like the decision was based on the NIE. As we know the NIE was only prepared at the request of Congress while the IWR was pending.) And Tenet got quite huffy at being questioned about waterboarding etc and repeatedly stated "We do not torture."

Oh, and although Tenet met daily with Bush during 2001 and the summer of "chatter," he claimed he never told Bush of his concerns and the need to urgently do something regarding the Al Qaeda threat and warnings of attacks against the US. It wasn't his job to tell the Pres about "action items." He told Rice in July 2001 and it was her fault the message of urgency didn't get transmitted to the President.

Somehow, I put more faith in Richard Clarke's and others' version of that July 2001 meeting with Rice, Tenet and others to discuss the chatter and threats against the US. Tenet was not inclined to think the threat was domestic but at US interests/targets overseas. And when Rice turned the conversation to the upcoming conference in Italy where Bush would be present, Tenet followed. That was when they made sure they had anti-aircraft batteries out of a concern that terraists would crash an airplane into the conference. ("No one could have imagined" Rice said later that terraists would crash airplanes into buildings, but they sure did imagine that in July.)

Given the slanted self-serving presentation he gave in his interview, in my mind at least he won't have that much cred when it comes to his version of other events. I'd prefer other, less tainted sources.

[AlCzervik]

20. "Anyone ever die in an interrogation room?" pause, pause, pause, pause

water bottle, shaky hands, big sip, pause, pause, pause "No". Um sure.

[Ino]

22. Then he added...

something like "...in the program we're talking about here, no"

Gonzales used this same phrasing in his (unsworn) illegal wiretapping hearing. He kept referring to "the program we're discussing here."

Why doesn't anyone ever ask, "Is there ANOTHER program you haven't told us about?"

[Me.]

26. Exactly

the door was left wide open and he slipped right through it

[SeattleGirl]

25. He's being pretty arrogant in this interview.

Not to mention disingenuous, etc. And he swears no one his died as a result of torture??? Oh, excuse me, it's NOT torture, right? :grr:

[Me.]

29. And How About

the way he said on any subject, like some potentate, "I'm done with it," and wouldn't answer any more questions. Very 'speak to the hand' moments.

[SeattleGirl]

34. I really noticed that.

Well, Mr. Tenent, YOU may be done with it, but some of us AREN'T.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

27. For an ex-CIA head, he's an awfully big crybaby

Suck it up, George. You took the shiny medal on the glossy ribbon. You kept your mouth shut till there was some money in it for you. For god's sake, don't be such a whiner.

[SeattleGirl]

28. He is a whiner, isn't he.

Plus he's got that Bush-like arrogance, responding to the reporter often with arrogance and condescension.

[autorank]

31. We (upside down is Me)...he blew it. K*R

This guy should come clean, admit he's a torturer.

Now, he tells us this stuff, great information, but then does some world court dance to not admit
guilt. I don't blame him, but I noticed. It's a heavy rap. Every interrogator I've read commenting
this said torture doesn't work. Maybe the 'laws of interrogation' have changed but I doubt it.

I did like the 'slam dunk' clarification he's made. Who ever spread that one is a real skivats!

[Me.]

32. You Would Have Thought

if he's trying to exonerate himself and sell books, he would have made a better presentation of himself. Or perhaps A$$ was his better side, or his bottom line best.

[autorank]

36. With him it's "bottoms up"...all the way.

Has he ever heard this word ... RESIGN...warn the public, get out, if you can't do it,
staying just enables the crazy boss. Pathetic performance on the job and everywhere else.

How did he ever get there? He was a Hill staffer, which is a fine thing to be, but doesn't
really pop into my mind as Director of CIA. Don't really know, but it seems odd. He must
give good "meeting."

[Me.]

37. How Did Any Of Them Get 'There' ?

Hill staffer! Figures.

[symbolman]

35. Classic CIA Psyops

Called "Cognitive Dissonance" - sew CONFUSION and Cast Blame in all directions.. while everyone is trying to figure out what and when and where things went wrong, he's OUT THE DOOR, and down the street..

He doesn't care if he sells books or not, he's got the money, he's been paid.

He is STILL a TOOL of this admin, shining up the medal..

[Moochy]

38. Congnitive Dissonance For the Win!

That guy is a cowardly pig. You saw how he protested too much on the medal of honor question? He "rationalized" that he could accept the medal because it was for the work of the "entire agency" and the work they did in Afghanistan, not Iraq. lol. OK. Glad he can compartmentalize so well.

[MiniMe]

39. Depends on what your definition of "torture" is