Can somebody tell me why war is ok if the person doing it has a D next to their name?

[tmyers09]

[Robb]

1. It's not.

[anonymous171]

2. War is not always wrong. nt

[tmyers09]

5. Let me clarify - War that a few short years ago we vehemently opposed.

There are a few people here under this mindset.

[spanone]

14. differences of opinion are good.

[patrice]

35. Not when it comes to INNOCENT dead people.

[patrice]

42. I have been against it all my life. It is Un-acceptable, because killing causes killing.

It is proof positive of FAILED LEADERSHIP.

[Orsino]

46. War is always wrong.

It's just that sometimes it becomes less wrong than the alternatives.

But none of the wars we're fighting have even that excuse.

War is always wrong. It is the result of failure, and is failure in itself.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. It shouldn't be.

But to many here, it is. :(

[gimama]

4. thanks for asking..

NO..HECK NO! I don't get it, canNOT explain it..
THESE wars are WRONG.
and THIS President, these Dems, are WRONG, too.

www.march20.org

[LWolf]

6. It's not. Especially "dumb" wars like the "war on terror." nt

[Captain Hilts]

7. He's handsome?

[laughingliberal]

21. And looks great in swim trunks! nt

[ThomCat]

28. That seems to be the best justification.

Anything he does is okay, even if it was horrible when Bush did it.

I call that Hypocrisy. But a lot of other people call that the Democratic Party. What a shame that this is what our party is turning into. :(

[latebloomer]

8. It is not

Same shit, different party.

[saracat]

9. I guess for the same reason union bashing, and anti choice is OK if there is a (D after their name.

Anti GLBT is also okay if their is a (D) after their name.They can always cite religious beliefs and after all "winning is everything"! We can always "change" things later. :sarcasm:

[KamaAina]

24. And undermining public education, shoveling billions to Wall Street...

etc., etc. ad nauseam. :puke:

[Moochy]

41. big ass tent

plenty of room for the enemy's ideas!

[gateley]

10. Who is saying it's ok? nt

[tmyers09]

12. I've seen it all too often on here.

Sometimes it's outright apologists, other times it's just indifference.

[gateley]

15. Wow - I thought that was one of the FEW things we were all in agreement on!

I don't know if it's indifference or maybe just a feeling of helplessness. The letters, protests, pleas, have done nothing. Like a beaten dog, maybe some people have just given up hope.

[laughingliberal]

22. Perhaps a perusal of reply # 2 here would shed light on that. nt

[Bryn]

11. So many of us don't support war at all

I was horrified when we went to Iraq War..I *KNEW* it would be a huge mistake. It was.

[FrenchieCat]

13. Did someone with a "D" next to their name start a war or something?

And why does someone with an "R" behind their name
get to start wars and yet be president for 7 long ass years,
serve 2 terms, then leaves it to someone with a "D" behind his name
to clean that shit up,
and it is the "D" who gets accused of doing exactly what he'd say he'd do
during the campaign as though you weren't even fucking listening?

Breaking Election news:
Kucinich didn't win.
Get.fucking.over.it.

[tmyers09]

16. No, but it looks like someone with a D next to their name is continuing one.

Obviously, something talked about during the campaign doesn't always hold true, or is outright denied, as evidenced by "I did not campaign on the public option". The figurehead may have changed, but it looks like it's still the same damn figures pulling the strings for their own gain. Just because the person is on our side, doesn't mean that everything he does has to be taken without question. People we trust and respect can make bad decisions sometimes. If you can't see that, you are blind.

Breaking Election news:
I was happy when Obama won, precisely because I didn't want the previous policies carried out anymore.
Fucking.deal.with.it.

[laughingliberal]

19. Oh, now! You're just being factual. That's not the way to promote good talking points. nt

[earth mom]

17. Problem is that guy with a "D" after his name ain't doing shit to clean up the mess. nt

[laughingliberal]

20. +1 nt

[treestar]

37. BS. He is doing all he can to clean it up

[sendero]

45. Your and his..

.. idea of "cleaning up" is doing more war. Just like Obama's idea of fixing the banking crisis is to give bankers more money.

Both are beyond idiotic. And neither will end well for the country or the party.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Nixon didn't start his war but escalated it. Obama didn't start his war but escalated it.

It took congress to finally end Nixon's failed war, and it will take congress to end Obama's failed war.

We lost. Get.fucking.over.it.

[tekisui]

32. Touch-ey.

The someone with a "D" did start an unprecedented drone strike campaign in Pakistan.

The someone with a "D" did more than double the size of the force in Afghanistan, including more than doubling the number of contractors used.

He has continued and expanded many of bush's foreign policies, including the 'right' to indefinite, uncharged detention.

Breaking Political News:
Obama isn't always right.
Get.fucking.over.it.

[VMI Dem]

18. Its ok if you say you're going to try to kill fewer civilians.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. The same reason we had "Scoop" Jackson Democrats during LBJ's lost war.

Good party loyalists who thought appearing "tough" would win elections...no matter what the cost in lives.

[cliffordu]

26. What makes you think anyone thinks 'war is OK'??

Kind of transparent, aintcha??

[Lagomorph]

27. Most of our adversaries...

...think our reasons for doing anything are laughable. Democracy? Woman's Rights? Negotiation? Compromise? GTFO!

[Individualist]

29. K&R

[Jamastiene]

30. It is not, but good luck trying to drill through these thick skulls around here.

I guess some people cannot hear the bombs going off with their heads entrenched so deeply in the sand about it.

[lonestarnot]

31. Not.

[tnlefty]

33. I'm sorry, I can not.

Whether anyone wants to acknowledge it or not, and I'll admit that it's local and anecdotal, but republicans that I know and talk to who voted Dem in '06 and '08 are pissed about this and more.

And anyone familiar with me knows that I REALLY don't like to talk to/deal with republicans, except for the saner ones and they're not an abundant fixture around here.

[patrice]

34. It's not. Killing causes killing.

[patrice]

38. Some differences of opinion are Dangerously Stupid and HeartLess.

[treestar]

36. While war sucks, it can be necessary

One with a D next to his name may have made an honest assessment that it is necessary.

One with a R to his name will exaggerate the need for war and believe this country should just kick others around for being stronger and they have some emotional identification with that.

[anonymous171]

39. The only necessary war is one that is waged in self-defense. nt

[patrice]

43. Yes. And also the struggle of tire-lessly & honestly pursuing relatively valid & reliable truth.

[Moochy]

40. People want to win

and Obama thinks its a just war.

[WVRICK13]

44. War Is Only Acceptable

if it is in defense of a direct attack. Since terrorists are not countries we should not be engaged in a war with Iraq or Afghanistan. If we want the terrorist we should be mounting covert ops and killing the terrorists not destroying countries.