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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:40 PM
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BigLaw fights back. ... Go fuck yourself, Liz Cheney! You sure don't understand the law.
http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2010/03/by-mike-scarcella-and-david-ingram----the-intensifying-flap-over-justice-department-lawyers-who-have-advocated-for-guantanamo.html?cid=6a00d83451d94869e201310f6b87f7970c

Big Law Defends Guantanamo Lawyers

By Mike Scarcella and David Ingram

The intensifying flap over Justice Department lawyers who have advocated for Guantanamo Bay detainees is spilling over to Big Law, where some firm leaders are fighting back against the criticism.

The Justice Department in the past couple of weeks has come under fire from a conservative group and Republican lawmakers for hiring lawyers who represented Guantanamo Bay detainees while in private practice. The controversy ramped up after the Justice Department refused to name the lawyers. Then the conservative Keep America Safe posted a YouTube video questioning the allegiance of the DOJ lawyers and giving the attorneys a name—“The Al Qaeda Seven.”

The political talk shows are buzzing about ethics and loyalty. Lawyers are writing opinion pieces. One Virginia congressman fired off a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. that compared Gitmo lawyers to attorneys for the mafia. And in the middle of it all are a group of former private practitioners in Big Law at firms that include Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr, Morrison & Foerster, O’Melveny & Myers and Sidley Austin.

“From the perspective of our firm, providing representation for unpopular causes is a long and noble tradition in the law, and that kind of criticism is not going to affect our firm’s commitment to that cause,” said Brian Brooks, managing partner of O’Melveny & Myers’ Washington office. “If the private bar doesn’t step up and show that kind of courage, then I think our whole system of justice is in question.”

Brooks, who describes himself as a conservative, said, “There’s a consensus from left to right that law and justice need to be insulated from politics.” Karl Thompson, who was a counsel with O’Melveny, was part of the team that defended Omar Khadr, the Canadian citizen who was 15 years old when he was transferred to Guantanamo in 2002.

The D.C. managing partner of Sidley Austin, Carter Phillips, said he feels "horrible" that a former partner, Joseph Guerra, who is now principal deputy associate attorney general, is taking heat for his participation on a U.S. Supreme Court brief in a detainee case. (Phillips, a former assistant solicitor general in the Reagan administration, was also on the brief.)

“I always think it is an outrage when people attack the lawyers for whom they represent,” Phillips said. “To me it’s unfortunate that we’re talking about wonderful talent, relatively young lawyers who ... are now being pilloried for something that they ought to have been cheered for.”

Whether or not the cause is popular, Phillips said, "it’s our responsibility to make sure that every side in a litigated matter is adequately represented. If that means personal sacrifice of one sort or another, that’s the price you pay.”

Michael DeSanctis, managing partner of Jenner & Block’s Washington office, said he expects the criticism to have “no effect whatsoever” on law firms. That’s because pro bono work is so ingrained at firms, and because the lawyers’ advocacy for Guantanamo detainees is already so well-known.

“This is not a secret part of their background. This is something that was out in the open,” DeSanctis said. “It seems like such old news, and such public news.”

Still, some of the firms that have been most involved in Guantanamo case have chosen to remain silent for now. The leaders of both Morrison & Foerster and Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr declined to comment on the controversy. Covington & Burling, which has also been active, did not respond to a request for comment.

Thomas Milch, chair of Arnold & Porter, said he is proud to work with lawyers who have advocated on behalf of detainees.

“I really do salute the private lawyers who stepped up to represent the Guantanamo detainees,” Milch said. “It’s an act in the best traditions of the profession, and I salute even more the lawyers who then went in to the government."

The debate is reminiscent of the controversy in 2007 when Bush administration official Cully Stimson resigned for his public remarks to a radio station. Stimson told a radio station that corporate CEOs should not work with law firms that advocate for Guantanamo detainees.

Amid the current firestorm, an opinion piece in Legal Times is getting a lot of play around the country. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher partner Theodore Olson and Neal Katyal, then a Georgetown University Law Center professor, co-authored a critique of Stimson’s comments—and defended pro bono representation of both the popular and unpopular.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:50 PM
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:01 AM
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2. Using Liz's criteria
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 12:12 AM by Mz Pip
we might as weell condemn all Defense Attorneys. Defend a guy facing a murder charge must mean you condone murder. Defend a guy on a sexual assault charges must mean you think rape is okay.

Glad to see the legal establishment kicking Liz to the curb on her nonsense.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:52 AM
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3. Liz Cheney, like her father, is anti-American values.
She is advocating exactly what the Bush administration advocated. They are in complete opposition to the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution. This country still views a person to be innocent until proven guilty despite their best efforts to change that. She and her father are working hard to turn the Constitution upside down by convicting people without a trial or a defense.

It is shameful that they receive any kind of attention other than scorn for what they are attempting to do to this country.

Those lawyers are heroes for doing what they did in the climate created by treasonous liars like her father. An atmosphere of fear and hatred and injustice.

Those seven attorneys should sue her. This is the only thing people like her understand and the lawsuit itself might help to provide a lesson in civics for these evil, hate-mongers.

Her father tried hard to deny foreign detainees access to our judicial system. He is a torturer and a traitor and came close to totally destroying this democracy.

When is the DOJ going to appoint a Special Prosecutor to go after these war criminals? It is America's shame that they are still free to continue their evil attempts to create a country where no one has any rights.

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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 02:49 AM
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4. Hey, Liz... you might wanna google 'Defamation of Character' ;-) n/t
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 09:06 AM
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5. Rachel was very effective on her show the other night. Made her look like an idiot
took the scary right out of Liz and made it possible for people to oppose her whacked out conspiracy.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 06:22 PM
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6. kicking because it makes me feel better
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 06:41 PM
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7. Here's a kick
Important subject
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