Significant Renewable Fuel Event Today- E85 is CHEAPER

[James48]

Today- something important happened-

The Price of Fuel Ethanol futures on the Chicago Board of Trade today dropped to a key point- It's now CHEAPER to use ethanol, than gasoline, EVEN WITHOUT SUBSIDIES.

That makes E85 fuel cheaper, even considering fewer MPG.

Tell your friends- NOW is the time to buy E85 fuel, and NOW is the time to ask your local gas station to add selling E85, instead of Premium fuel. Tax incentives available to help stations convert- and now Flexfuel is MORE economical.
Ethanol is a renewable fuel of the future. It burns cleaner than gasoline, and now, for the first time, it is economically MORE VIABLE than gasoline, even without government subsidies.

Details at:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/E85/119630874611

[Tunkamerica]

1. This sounds like an ad.

[Radical Activist]

2. Ok, but weren't you going to post something about renewable fuel?

E85 is great if you're trying to create new markets for the corn industry, but it sure as hell isn't renewable.

[leveymg]

3. Would you like a nice coal-burning ethanol plant to go with that?

Geez. Glad he also mention the lower fuel mileage that goes along with E85. About 25% less MPG.

[James48]

7. Yes,

Lower fuel mileage depends on the car. Most get about 15% fewer MPG on E85. That's the whole point-- that today, Ethanol is more than 20% cheaper than gas, so even with the lower MPG, you STILL are getting a better deal with renewable E85 than gasoline WITHOUT TAKING ANY SUBSIDIES INTO ACCOUNT. That is a huge accomplishment.

[WonderGrunion]

4. It would be even cheaper if the USA would switch from corn ethanol

to cellulose ethanol. Ethanol derived from sugar cane, sugar beets and switch grass is seven times more efficient to produce than corn ethanol.

[James48]

8. Other sources too.

America IS switching from Corn to Cellulostic and other sources of ethanol. Here is a link to a video inside a new Coskata's new plant in PA that makes ethanol from anything containing carbon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJbLE2ULKE

This plant in now in commercial operation, and can use wood chips and even old tires.

Even today's Corn plants are much more efficient than just three or four years ago, because many are now producing cattle feed DDG byproducts, and some are using corn stalks and cobs for the fuel to run them.

[ThomWV]

5. It may be cheaper to buy Ethanol, but its not cheaper to use Ethanol

As the cost of your first valve job will teach you. And if you don't pay for the valve job you will eat the cost in lost value of the vehicle - so one way or the other you pay for the use of this fuel. There is no free lunch.

[RayOfHope]

6. Yep. My dad's small engine repair guy says that he's never seen so many things needing repair

lawn mowers, weed eaters, tillers, blowers, etc. He says ethanol is really doing a number on these machines.

[James48]

10. My dad says....isn't that a facebook site?

First of all, that has nothing to do with driving a flex-fuel car. You are referring to small engines running on E10, not flex-fuel cars running on E85. Yes, some small engines are stalling as years and years of gasoline gunk is broken free and cleaned out by ethanol containing E10 fuel. But in general, that's been the extent of the issues with small engines.

With flex-fuel cars, they are designed to use E85 fuel, or gas, or any combination in between. If more people would learn about E85, they will find it is a better choice than gasoline. We don't send our money to other countries when we burn E85- more money is kept here at home, and farmers benefit as well.

[RayOfHope]

11. I didn't say it had anything to do with driving a flex fuel car

but I didn't realize there was a difference between E85 and E10. Whats the difference? Also, does it take as much water to make E85 as it does E10? That's a huge concern.

[James48]

9. E85 is better for your engine's life space

First valve job? Another misnomer. E85 is actually better on the life of your car's engine. It keeps things cleaner, and engines last longer on E85 than on gasoline.

[leveymg]

12. ethanol wipes down the cylinder walls, considerably shortening the life of piston rings.

Unless of course you don't consider rings and the cylinder block to be part of your car's engine. What are you driving, a Plug-in?