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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:00 PM
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The way to shut up Stupak and the GOP is to introduce a sweeping prenatal health care bill.
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 10:01 PM by rug
An asset-blind status bill. If you're pregnant you get immediate government-run health care. And the coverage continues for you and the child for the first three years of his or her life. No questions asked. Because the fetus and the newborn must be protected.

Let them vote against it.

At least some of us might get single payer out of this cesspool of a Congress.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:03 PM
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1. I like that idea
It would do a lot of good.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:21 PM
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2. I like it, too.
Who could/would vote against that?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 09:32 AM
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16. Republicans
nt
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:23 PM
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3. I'd suggest covering every child to the age of 18 regardless of family income.
Lift the cap on SS taxes to pay for it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:27 PM
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4. Won't work. Anti-choicers only care about kids before they are born.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:29 PM
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5. Yes, but we want them to be forced into openly admitting it
They need to be on record denying infants, yet touting that they are pro-life. Perfect Catch-22.
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MonkeyMama Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:50 PM
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18. Exactly!
Make them own their hypocrisy.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:30 PM
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6. Call their bluff. Let them terminate health care at birth.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:33 PM
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7. Most excellent idea nt
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:42 PM
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8. That is a GREAT idea.
Get those anti-women assholes to show their true colors.

Pro life my ass.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 11:03 PM
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9. What a great idea.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 11:29 PM
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10. This needs NOT to stay at DU.
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 11:36 PM by thecrow
Shout it out far and wide.
Take it to congress.
I love this idea.
+10000000 if I could.

edit: I just sent it to President Obama..... you can too!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 11:36 PM
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11.  A REALLY BAD idea, friends.
Such a law would outlaw abortion entirely. If your rationale is "the fetus must be protected," then how can you justify abortion in any situation? Women would be forced against their will to "protect the fetus" that they want to abort, not to mention that the fetus'life would be elevated above that of the mother.

The Rs would all vote for this. It would be the progressives who would vote against it.

You people really need to think this stuff through.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 01:10 AM
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13. Not at all. Providing prenatal health care does not negate choice.
The rationale to outlaw abortion is to protect the fetus. Their only proposal to do this is to criminalize abortion and imprison doctors and/or women.

It's time this smokescreen is dispersed.

If they're serious about promoting life, they cannot consistently oppose medical care during pregnancy.

Mandating prenatal care to those who choose to continue a pregnancy does not in the least mandate the pregnancy goes to term. It simply assures that the child born of that pregnancy will have had the benefit of access to medical care.

Short of a mandate that every person in the country has medical care, that is the only mandate that Congress should be considering.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 11:49 PM
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12. Excellent idea !
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 02:26 AM
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14. Good...
...there should be something about having the woman apply for the healthcare when she decides she's going to keep the baby... just to get around pro-lifers getting into her business BEFORE that decision is made.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 09:31 AM
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15. That would be an excellent idea.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 10:14 AM
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17. Sounds like a great idea to me
Since they want all of these babies born- whether or not people can afford to carry them, whether or not people consented to the act that created them, and whether or not continuing with the pregnancy endangers the health and life of the mother- they need to demonstrate that they have a plan to care for all of the "forced births" that restricting access to abortion inevitably causes (as well as maybe some kind of compensation for the families whose mothers- who should perhaps be given posthumous awards- "give" their lives and maybe even the lives of the unborn attempting to bring a child into the world despite having been given medical advice to terminate the pregnancy). :eyes:

The pro-choice movement really needs to start painting a picture for everybody about what the cold hard reality of what life would look like if the anti-abortion movement gets their way and really outlaws abortion and I'd bet even they would be forced to concede the banality of their arguments/advocacy.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:52 PM
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19. Great Idea !!! - K & R !!!
:yourock:

:kick:

:hi:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 09:59 PM
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20. k & R
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