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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:45 PM
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Poll question: You have been given a magic wand:
A former colleague and I were kicking this around the other day, the idea that the same person can say in one breath that better intelligence is the only way to combat terrorism, and with the next espouse that no intelligence apparatus currently in place is worth its weight in dirt.

He said, wryly, "If you gave intelligent Americans a magic wand and told them they could use it to eradicate either the CIA or land mines from the face of the earth forever, at the end of the day you'd still have land mines."

So I thought I'd bounce this odd question off some intelligent folk and see what pops up.

Wave your wand, and tell me why.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:53 PM
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1. The CIA is composed of humans and can be repurposed
or at least change the way things are done.

Land mines exist for one purpose and one purpose only. If they were something else they wouldn't be land mines.

Thus I have to get rid of land mines, because there might be a possibility of doing something useful with the CIA.


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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:53 PM
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2. I'd ditch land mines
The CIA can be fixed, but land mines work just fine at what they do.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 05:55 PM
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3. All modern nation states need intelligence agencies...
We should not pretend that if we just keep to ourselves that other nations will treat us fairly or declare Peace and light throughout the universe. If you only have one nation that desires to benefit itself at the expense of others, they will do things that do harm to their competitors.

Until we live in a perfect world, intelligence agencies are a necessary evil because we humans are a competitive bunch of SOB's.

Land Mines are terrible things. They can set in the world for decades, there are places that still pull land-mines from WWII out of the ground. They are the most stupid of all weapons that are indiscriminate in their mayhem. If you step on one, it will blow you up. They are strange looking objects that curious children are attracted to with that same fatalism that moths are attracted to a candle. If we must fight and kill each other, we should try to keep these conflicts limited to adult combatants. Finally, there are many more efficient ways of controling a battlefield. Why resort to an relativly old technology that is far less efficient than most weapons in use today.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:01 PM
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4. Valerie Plame was CIA.
Working to stop people like Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi from getting nuclear weapons technology - and using it..
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:05 PM
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5. I disagree with your friend, get rid of the land mines with one exception.
The DMZ Zone between North and South Korea.

Thanks for the thread, Robb.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:09 PM
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6. Well, that's what SHE calls it. (I love her so.) n/t
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:21 PM
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7. "So I thought I'd bounce this odd question off some intelligent folk and see what pops up."
What controls are in place to be sure only "intelligent folk" contribute to your poll?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:21 AM
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9. Heh.
Is it possible for me to be unintentionally ironic in retrospect? :D
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:59 PM
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8. I'd get rid of the mines. Watching "Christians In Action" step on their dicks
over the decades has been pretty amusing, even moreso than watching congress trying to act sincere.


mark
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:30 AM
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10. Adios DLC
The other two will take care of themselves.
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GreenMetalFlake Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:33 AM
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12. Well put
:thumbsup:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:32 AM
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11. I'd send the CIA to detonate ALL the land mines.
Two birds with one stone.;-)
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:11 AM
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13. land mines first then the CIA - the world would be better without both


of them.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:14 AM
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14. Adios, the need for land mines and the CIA
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:18 AM
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15. We have other ways to get rid of land mines - it would take a magic wand to get rid of the CIA
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