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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:10 AM
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I just surfed some conservative blogs just for the hell of it
Three or four of them... Same old-same old. Obama: Bad, RINOs: Bad, Liberals: Bad. I'll spare you the gory details.

However, there was one aspect about them that was pretty consistent; I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what the fuck they were talking about.

Their entire frames of reference were completely outside of the pale of actual reality,

It's like they pull their so-called facts straight from their dimpled asses. None of their shit makes any Goddamned sense.

I feel sorry for any of you who have to deal with assholes like this on a regular basis, be they your relatives, co-workers or acquaintances. I wonder how you can keep migraines from crippling you when you talk to them.

I don't know if these people a stupid, crazy or mean, or some weird combination of them all.

What is it in this country that creates people like this, people with absolutely no common sense at all?

Any idea?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:12 AM
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1. Do you need some bleach to clear out the yuck in your eyes
The Stupid really burns with them!
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:13 AM
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2. Have you been deloused?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:14 AM
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3. The Wingularity is nigh..
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2009/05/16/the-wingularity-is-nigh/

I believe that the mistake observers make when looking for peak-wingnut is that they measure wingnuttery against a set of numbers. Wingnuttery can not be measured by any metric by which sane people would ordinarily measure other phenomena. I believe that we have always seen and known peak-wingnut. However, because of its size we are incapable of seeing all of it at one time. We are only permitted a glimpse of wingnuttery depending on its positioning relative to reality at any given time. This positioning simply can not be predicted or measured. In fact, it is irrelevant what position wingnuttery occupies relative to reality because wingnuttery is everywhere at all times. And it always has been.

Wingers will never be more or less sane, or more or less stupid. They will always be as bat-shit insane and pig-ignorant as they always have been. The only factor to be considered is our perception of them. It’s not that they get crazier and stupider. It’s that each time they say or do anything, we perceive them as advancing teh crazy/stupid ball one step further. This is not the case; we merely witness one more tentacle of an infinitely insanely stupid entity.
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:19 AM
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4. I am a 63 year old who remembers when
Republicans were republicans. I remember, although I was only 7 or 8, when Eisenhour was elected. Republicans changed when Reagan and Bush came along, thats when things changed. Thats when I realized what snakes they all were.
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:24 AM
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6. I am
A little older than you, I too remember well when Ike was president, I actually met Truman when I was a child...reagon was the main turning point when they went from something that actually resembled sanity to total chaos and complete insanity and seemed to drag a goodly portion of the electorate with them. Republicans treat their politics as if it were a religion and their leaders it's gods.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:46 AM
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10. I disagree that Reagan was the start of the winger
cliff dive. I think he hit the national scene on the crest of a winger wave.

My age falls somewhere between both the above posters and my memory somewhat differs.

To me the anti-war movement of the 60's and 70's started the right on the path to Reagan. When Nixon was forced to resign the nuttiness magnified and then the various disasters under the Carter administration paved the way for Reagan and his cronies.

In the 70's and then in the Reagan campaign Lee Atwater perfected the politics of destruction and mentored people like Karl Rove to further the extreme agenda well into the 21st century.

Reagan was the manifestation of simmering hate and "government is the problem" thinking that the Republicans, then and now, perpetuate. Rather ironic when you consider that the anti-government anti-war movement is probably what got the ball rolling in the first place.
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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:28 AM
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19. I think it began with CREEP
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 10:30 AM by azureblue
and Watergate. The bunch of crooks behind CREEP infected the Republican party. (Watch or read "All the President's Men") I have had a few discussions with GOPers, and I tell them they should return to the party of Ike, and heed his warnings and principles. Every one had no idea what I was was talking about, and they just went right back to spewing ignorance, as if were an acceptable defense.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:40 AM
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20. Good point about CREEP.
Today's crop on right wing zealot's probably wouldn't even know what CREEP was, even the old timers you see at tea-bagger rallies.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:27 AM
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7. I understood the Republicans of the '70s
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 09:29 AM by MrScorpio
Hell, the hard working, union-loving, black and white citizens of Detroit voted for a Republican governor of Michigan to keep him in office for fourteen years.

Republicans like Ike, Rockefeller, and William Milliken could be both decent human beings and Republicans at the same time without hardly any trouble at all.

What the hell is up with this current crop of assholes is utterly perplexing.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:53 AM
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12. I hear ya...
I remember when the 2 parties were 2 sides of the same street. Then the Republicans entered the "Right Turn Only" lane, and a lot of the Dems broke ranks and ran to anyone waving a campaign contribution.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:21 AM
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5. Also, it's as if their memories from 2001 to 2009 suffer from a massive fog.
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 09:22 AM by HughBeaumont
"Who is this . . . Bush person you speak of? What's this "Republicans controlling all three branches" nonsense? I only remember the communists Carter, Clinton and Obama being the cause of all the nation's problems."

Their "Teh Red Menuce" bullshit is part and parcel why I don't take any of those grope-artists seriously. The other major reason are their economic theories, which they still continue to espouse despite most of them being proven wholesale failures.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:27 AM
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8. A local wing-nut blogger had peppered his column with multiple
quotes from Rush Limbaugh, like he's some kind of all-knowing oracle, as proof that everything that blogger said was gospel truth! :rofl:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:29 AM
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9. The reason none of their shit make sense is because they just repeat talking points
without fully understanding the issue. They have become so content to letting others do their thinking for them (Cheney, Beck, Palin etc.) that they never bother to verify facts. It's easier to just vomit up whatever "facts" they hear from these "experts" than it is to apply logic and come to their own conclusions.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:51 AM
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11. you think these freaks are unique to the USA? Weren't you stationed in Europe at one point?
their Higher Brain was never cultivated and so never fully developed.

IMO, that explains it all. Both here in America and worldwide.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:57 AM
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14. I naver paid attention to any Euro politics in the 90's
And besides, Clinton was in office at the time... I figured that the Europeans just followed his lead.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:53 AM
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22. I can't believe that other countries have citizens stupider than our conservatives.
I would be genuinely interested in hearing of any other country whose national welfare and progress is being (or has been) hamstrung and held back by a good-sized group of its own citizens characterized by low education, extreme religion, a completely false view of the world, and a crippling fear of any form of change, or any variation on these themes. Also, did anything resembling this situation bring about the fall of the Roman Empire or any other political entity?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:55 AM
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13. Its a good thing we don't have computers that gives us the smells then, huh
Jus kid'n

You're a lot stronger man than me though as I can't go there at all. I don't want to take any chance on some of that to rub off on me.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:59 AM
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15. 59,000,000 people voted for Palin to become a heartbeat away from the presidency.
My head still spins when I try to wrap my brain around it. There are millions of non-thinking dumb Americans. I am still waiting to see a bumper sticker that reads "I am stupid and I vote".
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:10 AM
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16. It's Called The Parallel Universe...
These people live in their own Private Idaho. It began in the 80s at the altar of Raygun and Atwater. It was a "redefinition" of not just their worldview but a lexicon to go with it. It was a lingo that incorporated all the feel good buzz words that masked the racism, sexism, homophobia and outright obnoxious nature that the rushpublican party used to "energize" a base and keep it in line. They not only mastered the "Big Lie", they build a theme park around it...called the Parallel Universe.

This is a world that gets more unhinged and inpenetrable...massively conflicted with its own hypocrisies but with no concern as to how little credibility they hold. They have revised their own history to avoid taking any responsibility and redirect the blame on its enemies. It's a world that now turns on its own hatred and frustration...no real ideology other than some conveluted dream of "What Would Raygun Do" and empty soundbites they cling onto like life support.

What creates it? Many sources...all who are opportunists who know that their empty catch phrases can be used to manipulate and sucker millions. It promises "prosperity" and privilidge built on the backs of the "inferior"...the "un-Amurican". It's an easy world to live in as the talking points are constanly reinforced on hate radio and shown on corporate media. In many ways the right wing have become the WWE of politics...it's a bloodsport and doesn't matter if its staged.

Cheers...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:13 AM
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17. Excellent Synopsis
Thanks
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:41 AM
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21. This alternate "reality" has been consciously constructed by
those employed by the real benificiaries Republican policies: the rich. They cultivated a culture war based on the class cleavages during Vietnam anti-war movement and racial differences (Nixon's southern strategy) in the aftermath of the Civil Rights Act. Cultivating these divisions allowed them to persuade working-class voters to vote against their own economic interests. At the same time, a lot of the sleazy campaigning and dirty tricks that characterised southern politics (and which Democrats had previously engaged in there) became part of national campaigns, which pushed these campaigns further and further from reality, with increasing use of selective facts, half-truths, lies and innuendo, and fear mongering (to say nothing of vote fraud).

A true populist Democrat, though, might be able to redirect the energy of the monster the GOP has created and cause it to bite back at its creator.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:39 AM
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24. Well said. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:13 AM
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18. They're reinforced daily by AM radio and Fox "news"
It's sort of a mass delusion.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:23 AM
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23. Apparently, trying to keep a lot of people from dying is "tyranny."
...yeah, I don't get it either.
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