Happy Women's History Month! Does it matter?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

Did you even know?

Will networks sponsor programming and Public Service Announcements for the month, as they do during Black History Month?

edit: title change, since the plain old salutation sank like ......a woman applying for a promotion?.... a TV show without ridiculously low necklines?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

1. keek

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[Brickbat]

2. I do know it's Women's History Month, because I celebrate International Women's Day.

Which is today.

[MineralMan]

3. Great poster!

[Brickbat]

5. It's one of my faves.

This one, while not a Women's Day one, is also a favorite of mine:



I have this one in my bedroom:



And this one framed on my desk:



Don't get me started! I could go on!

[MineralMan]

6. Soviet poster art from that period is amazing.

For me, it is the pinnacle of political poster art.

[Brickbat]

7. Totally agree.

It's the perfect combination of message and design, and the new ideas in design and use of type are truly revolutionary. And I agree with a lot of the messages, too. :)

[BlancheSplanchnik]

8. I especially love the monochrome one!

there's a website where they have all kinds of current political posters (tee shirts too) based on WWII propaganda art.
http://www.oldamericancentury.org

[MineralMan]

4. I knew. and so does the media.

http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=women's+history+month&cf=all&start=0

Results 1 – 10 of about 2,822 for women's history month.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

9. I'm just sayin...

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=black+history+month&btnG=Google+Search
Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 84,800,000 for black history month

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=black+history+month&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2
Yahoo: 190,000,000 results for
black history month

[MineralMan]

10. Not equivalent. You posted a general google search. I posted

a Google News search. Here's the general search:

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHNG_enUS339US339&aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=womens+history+month

About 10,800,000 results (0.25 seconds)

Still fewer results, but the question was about media coverage.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

11. you read as if you're attacking me

it's hard to figure intonation, so I can't tell for sure.

No, I didn't realize there's a difference btwn Google and Google News.

I think G or GN is immaterial, however.
I was making a comparison btwn two otherwise equivalent honors, that is what the question is about.

And 2,822 is not just "fewer results", but markedly, egregiously fewer.

To me, this begs the question, Why such a disparity?

[MineralMan]

12. Nope. Not attacking. Just participating.

The comparison was apples and oranges. I provided the other apple in my previous reply. The difference is not so large when the playing field is the same. That's all.

Regular Google searches search the entire internet. Google News searches search only recent media stories.

That's why the number seems so small. When I searched the entire internet, as you did in your searches, the difference is far smaller.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

13. Ah, ok...

good to know :)

Then I assume you won't mind when I point out that you are continuing to ignore the substance of my post.... I am perplexed by your seeming refusal to address the real point here, in favor of focusing on the difference in the search engine brands.

I clearly showed the outrageously huge chasm between the two groups; and that chasm holds regardless of the brand name of the ruler you're using. To me, 10 million hits (closer to 11 million, actually) says that subject is considered culturally important, whereas two thousand hits indicates a subject that is all but ignored.

Again, the key question is, "This begs the question, Why such a disparity?"

[MineralMan]

14. I'm afraid I can't explain it any better. But I'll try again.

When you use Google, you normally get a search of the entire web. That almost always leads to millions of hits on your search, which covers every page on the internet. If, however, you select Google News, it will search only recent news sources. That will always result in far fewer results, since Google is searching merely a few thousand sources, and only in the very recent past.

There is no search that will produce anything like the same numbers between regular Google and Google News. It's like two different worlds.

So, you can compare two or three searches in Google. You can compare two or three searches in Google News. The number of hits for all of the searches will be several orders of magnitude different. Only when you use the same type of search, either all of Google or Google News for all three searches can you make a reasonable comparison.

Try your searches again, but level the playing field by using either plain Google or Google News. Then you can judge the real difference between the coverage. Mixing them doesn't work.

A Google News Search for Black History Month gets only 9819 hits. That's still a lot more than the Women's History Month gets, but not the huge discrepancy.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

15. I understand the apples oranges point

I missed that the link you gave (after speaking about Google News) and the associated figure were regular Google, not Google news..... So didn't realize I was making a false comparison.



Anyway, now that the instrument is resolved, I'm really tired of being deflected from the point. Which is, why does the media neglect honoring women's achievements? During Black History Month, there were tv spots nightly and special programming during the whole month. So far in March I'm seeing nothing. The disparate numbers confirm the inequality.

Additionally, no one seems to care much.

Oh well it's just sad and frustrating -- maybe there is nothing that can be discussed further. As a woman, it affects me personally -- I wish I could see role models that I can repsect and feel inspired by. In terms of society --I know I'm not the only one, and I know the message, that women's achievements are invisible, has a negative impact.

If I were a network exec, I'd be doing something to correct the problem.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

16. hello?

Courtesy please?

MM, I put a good bit of energy into replying fully to your corrections.

You put quite a bit of energy into correcting me, but I'm not seeing any effort to engage my perspective.

I'd truly appreciate a response as willing to think about my point as I was of yours. I consider parity to be a sign of respect, and courtesy a sign of intelligence and character -- and from other posts I've read from you, I can see you possess all of that.

[EFerrari]

17. Check Amy's site this month. She will definitely have good stuff.

Today she talked about Granny D and re-aired and interview with her. :hi: