The Health Care System will be less privatized if HCR passes

[CreekDog]

Based on significant expansion of Medicaid and significant expansion of Health Care Clinics.

If HCR doesn't pass, the system will become more privatized because state budget cuts are leading to reductions in services or enrollments in Medicaid and other programs where the government directly provides or procures health care for people.

[RaleighNCDUer]

1. Follow the money.

There is no way that funneling billions of dollars to private insurers will NOT end up with greater privitization of health care.

The problem is, the bills supporters equate THIS bill with HCR - and this is NOT reform. We need REAL health care reform, because without real health care reform the system WILL become more privatized - private insurance will continue to raise the rates, continue to profit by not paying for treatment, and WE will be subsidizing them to do so through our taxes.

Remember I said this - if this bill passes, the entire system will collapse within 15 years. THEN, if we are lucky, we will get single payer.

Or, we could kill the bill now and get single payer next year.

[Donnachaidh]

2. this passage above taken directly from George Orwell's 1984

DoublePlusGood, dontcha know *wink wink*

[jtuck004]

3. Could you provide where it says that in either bill?

I looked through http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc-sen_health_care_bill.cfm and while I found some increase in school based clinics, some for Indian health services, a $50 million grant for some nursing clinics, but I can't find anything that compares to the 300 Billion (30 million new customers at abt 10,000 a year) in new money the private insurers have the potential to get. (Doesn't really include funds they might tap for supplemental changes, prescription drugs, etc). I don't find anything that references the "Health Care Clinics" which is an established federal program.

Could you please provide a link to this in a bill that has (or will be) passed?

thank you