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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:09 PM
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The Purging of the Party.
This crap is not new. It is not from what we now call the r/w. If anything, it comes from those who have always, currently do, and will always, support the status quo, benefit from the status quo, and as such, will continue to promote the status quo and help to perpetuate "the existing institutions". That is not party specific; never has been regardless of what you'd like to believe. Nor is it new for members of the press to do much the same.

The Purging of the Party.


     Hear what the New-York correspondent of the London Times says of the ultimate consequences of the election of General Pierce:
     "One of the not distant results, probably, will be the withdrawal, or banishment of the whole tribe of fanatics from the Democratic ranks--1, the Abolitionists; 2, the Fillibusters and Pirates; 3, the Women's Rights Dreamers; 4, the Bloomers, et id genus omne. These disturbers of society, whose only object has been to tear down existing institutions, have grown to be more numerous than might be supposed. They had attached themselves generally to disappointed Democratic leaders, who could gain notoriety only by the advocacy of ultraism. All these excrescences will now be lopped off."
<snip>
     "The Womens' Rights Dreamers" must march also. Well, there were few of them that had votes, and there are many things done in the Wigwam that would be as well done in the absence of ladies.
     The Bloomers, et id omne genus! Mrs. B---- and Mrs. G---- and Mrs. S---- then are among the excluded! And as the separation of families can hardly be tolerated in this latitude, there must go with them some very eloquent Democratic gentlemen, and some very meek and harmless voters. The young women are driven out,--what a cozy time the old women that remain will have! Moreover some of these exiles will wonder much at their position as defined by this Correspondent of the Times. Some of them will open their eyes on learning that they are reckoned among the victors, that they were part and parcel of the Democratic Party.
     We learn a great deal in the London Times. Pity the steamers do not come oftener. We need its lucid expositions of the passages in our daily history. It is pleasant to be sure that we are right in our notions of things--but if the Times' correspondent is right, what awkward blunderers the rest of mankind are!

The New York Times

Published: December 7, 1852 {WARNING for dial-up: .pdf image file}
{formatting and spelling from the original replicated as closely as possible}



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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:14 PM
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1. K&R
The Democratic Party is as it has always been.
:loveya:

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:18 PM
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2. The Democrats need to purge anyone who doesn't want to codify non-egaltarian, private, for-profit...
multi-tiered health insurance policies for all.


Then the next time an election is stolen, they can rage against some chump that appeals to those casted out and ignored. Lather, Rinse, Repeat
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:35 PM
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5. As it ever was. At least back then, there would at times appear
alternate parties.

Those who've had control in the intervening years have made sure that is less and less likely to happen.

Reading the history of election laws is quite enlightening.

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:25 PM
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3. I notice women were at the top of this list even then.


Under the horse drawn conveyance!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:28 PM
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4. Well, Abolitionists - but, yeah, many of them were women.
:D

I love your period appropriate bus. Well, love may not be the right word.

:hi:

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:39 PM
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6. This is a good series, thanks for finding these.
It's so wild to see them so open about it. I guess nothing ever really *does* change. I'm sorry I did miss the Abolitionists there. It would be amazing to see the letters columns of the papers back then on this. "Abolition, good sir, is simply not practical this year. I have just now coined a new phrase, the "single Issue" voter. Has it not a solid ring to the ear?" </muttonchops>

:hi:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:43 PM
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7. LMAO at {/muttonchops}
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 06:44 PM by Cerridwen
I've gotta laugh or I'm gonna scream.

I was surprised the original writer of the piece didn't mention the Abolitionists in his(? more than likely his) rebuttal. The author went right past them to the "Fillibusters and Pirates."

:hi:

edited because subject line didn't like those symbols




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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:51 PM
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8. There's been a lot of monocle-polishing here lately
If I can't find a way to laugh I'll go crazy. :D I'm surprised the Pirates got the pointy stick. These days we give them a seat on the Cabinet.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:01 PM
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10. A wise woman once told me that, "the strong go crazy while the weak go along". n/t
:kick: & R

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:46 PM
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15. How'd you get so lucky?
;)

Thanks for the K & R.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:34 PM
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18. Maybe it was the other way around...
:shrug:

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:12 PM
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12. The Pirates incorporated and became legit. Funny,
in an "I stuck a stick in my eye" kind of way, isn't it?

I'm chuckling here to save my sanity. :)

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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:41 AM
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19. Only because
teh ghey!!! weren't fighting for their rights yet (at least not on a national level) and teh commiez!!!!11 had yet to be invented.
They're not actually trying to kick women out yet. You've still got too many rights that can be bartered away.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:41 AM
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21. Exactly JoeyT.
Now there are several more kinds of "ultraists" (what is the new equivalent to that word?) to reject after elections these days.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:54 PM
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9. K&R
Thanks for finding this!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:09 PM
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11. Thank you and you're welcome.
There's so much out there that's been "forgotten."

There's much more out there like this, too. But, sometimes it takes time to find it. :(

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:41 PM
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13. I love getting lost in the google news archives.
I didn't know it went back that far. Thank you again for the excellent finds! :thumbsup:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:46 PM
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14. NY Times and Time Magazine have some entertaining and informative
archives available, in addition to google news.

As you can tell, I've spent a lot of time viewing them online, in addition to microfiche and newspaper morgues.

I am such a nerd. The internet has made me more so. *sigh*

:D

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:09 PM
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16. I used to read World books for fun.
:blush: The internet is like nerd candyland.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:11 PM
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17. lol. so true. n/t
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:56 AM
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20. et id genus omne = And everything of the sort. n/t
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