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Tue Mar-09-10 06:39 PM
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I get it Kooch and ideally I agree with all of your goals |
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However, by law our government can not shut down an established, legal industry. There are lots of legal ways to implement a single-payer system without going full-on communist.
Dennis, your heart is in the right place, but your head is in freaking la-la land. Do some serious soul searching and get with the freaking program.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:41 PM
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2. Leave that to the courts to decide. If they want to go head to head with Congress then let them. |
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:42 PM
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3. wow, so Kucinich is a communist now |
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unbelievable. You guys are going way too far on this demonize Kucinich campaign. Maybe you want Kucinich in Gitmo next as a terrorist.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:47 PM
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4. I'm just one guy with one post on the subject. |
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I want Dennis to wise up and vote for HCR.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:53 PM
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10. You mean Health Insurance Reform (HIR) ? nt |
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:50 PM
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is not those criticizing Kucinich. It's a message board. Politicians should be criticized. They're all fair game. People have every right to criticize something or someone they don't agree with. I have no issue with that.
But those that are criticizing Kucinich are some of the same ones who get all bent out of shape when someone criticizes a politician that they like and support, mainly Obama.
How is criticizing Kucinich to this extent any different than those who criticize Obama to this extent? Two wrongs don't make a right. Both sides, when criticizing to this extent, really are bringing nothing productive to the table. It's just childish and immature. Fine, you don't like Kucinich (or Obama or fill-in-the blank). Point taken. But some of these threads (on both sides) are just overkill.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:47 PM
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5. stop using GOP framing |
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single payer is NOT "communism". it would be an OPTION competing with oh-so-efficient private insurers.
write Kucinich off - he's going to stand on principle here.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:49 PM
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6. Read my post again, you misunderstood what I said. |
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:59 PM
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15. well, define "full-on" communism |
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i'm picturing ownership of every industry in the hands of the state.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:50 PM
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7. He sounded a little wacky... sorta massa-ish. |
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:54 PM
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12. Yep...he's gone Massa!!! nt |
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:51 PM
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:54 PM
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11. the "freaking program" is part and parcel of the problem... |
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It's my opinion that the "freaking program" is part and parcel of the problem.
Convention (i.e., the "freaking program") may be fine in many instances, but when it becomes a justification for its own existence, I have very few problems with anyone pointing that out.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:55 PM
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13. And how do you suppose we could get a majority to go along with Single payer??? |
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We can't even get a solid majority to go for the public option!
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:01 PM
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17. declaration of intent isn't necessarily the most effective political tool available |
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Granted, an individual's sincere declaration of intent isn't necessarily the most effective political tool available. Indeed, far too often one has little to do with the other.
As for your specific question-- I have no idea... for, as it stands, far too many elected representatives take far too much money from the Insurance PACs; in other words, too many reps are part of the "freaking program".
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:57 PM
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14. DK is a joke to anyone that doesn't drool over grandstanding. |
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As long as "truth to power" is getting slung around like myopic manure they'll clap like seals.
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Tue Mar-09-10 06:59 PM
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16. You lost me at "communist". |
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Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 07:01 PM by Marr
What a ridiculous comment.
If you could classify Kucinich as a communist, I kind of doubt that you share many of his ideals.
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:01 PM
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18. And that industry must be protected? People must be forced |
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to buy from them, no matter what, no option, no choice, compelled by law to contribute to those businesses? Obama keeps claiming that their profits are some sort of birth right of theirs, deserved rather than earned, and I do not agree with that. If they can not compete then they fail, that's business. Forced purchase is piracy. Your hyperbole and slander does not cover up that you are claiming it has to be all profit, with custom forced by law.
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Tue Mar-09-10 07:05 PM
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19. Obamacare is corporate communism. |
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There are no two ways to slice that apple.
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